Should FastCap develop a Domino glue nozzle product?
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No.
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"I would buy a set for up to $30.00."
I don't think I could print that for $30.
I haven't run the files through the slicer to see the print time
estimates but I know many of those parts will be 2 hours at least.
So that's a full day of printing, more if there's an oops. The filament
cost would be nil, but you can't set it and forget it for 8 hours. You
have to monitor the printer and start each print job.
Steve how long does it take to print the whole set?
I don't think I could print that for $30.
I haven't run the files through the slicer to see the print time
estimates but I know many of those parts will be 2 hours at least.
So that's a full day of printing, more if there's an oops. The filament
cost would be nil, but you can't set it and forget it for 8 hours. You
have to monitor the printer and start each print job.
Steve how long does it take to print the whole set?
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Bob D. said:
Bob,
I am sure you know there are a lot of setting variables that affect print time and I have found support is a significant contributor. I printed the entire set less the tray in about 19 hours (I let it print overnight). The tray took almost 6 hours with only 10% infill. I am already working on Gen 2 and working on reducing print times. Initially, it looks like my print time with the new design could be printed out in about half that time. Still a long time though and it is surprising just how long 3D printing takes.
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Yes
For those who want a set printed now but dont have a 3d printer (like me) I would reach out to THIS GUY I have no affiliation with him other than I ordered a new dust shoe for my CNC router and was very impressed with his service and product. He didnt already offer a dust shoe for my model but was willing to work with me on getting one made. So he might be willing to print other stuff to. The price for dust shoe I got seemed very reasonable to me, Its pretty good size the duct is 6" for scale so it had to take a lot of hours to print it. I attached pic of shoe. This was my first time even handling a 3d printed part. The tolerance's were much better than I expected too.
Especially if their was a group buy.
Especially if their was a group buy.
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afish said:
Anyone seeking to do what you suggest had best look at the license for this design which is clearly indicated on the download site. For this design you cannot print for commercial use. The fact that I have chosen to share this work does not give anyone license to steal, manufacture, and profit from my work.
For what it's worth, I purchased a dust boot from oneguyinashop and he does excellent work.
sorry, I do not want one for myself and didnt even click the link. When I said (like me) I was only referring to the fact I dont have a 3d printer. not that I wanted the domino glue nozzle and also dont have a printer. I misunderstood your post, when you said you had no desire to have a 3d print farm.
I dont see it as a huge seller but why not offer a small license fee to print commercially? sort of like how some sell plans. problem is most people who make and sell 3d printed items could look at that, and design their own lickity split. Or partner with someone like oneguyinashop where he makes a bunch for you and you sell them. It kind of reminds me of the guy that designed the chestnut MFT but refused to sell any plans. He only wanted to sell complete units but quickly found out that selling woodworking projects to woodworkers was a tough sale. Any woodworker with basic skills could look at it and duplicate it. Then you have a guy that sold plans for his mobile MFT cart (sorry I forgot the name) but I know he sold a ton of those plans. I dont have access to eithers financials but I would bet my house that the guy who sold the plans made way more money than the other guy. Good luck, either way
I dont see it as a huge seller but why not offer a small license fee to print commercially? sort of like how some sell plans. problem is most people who make and sell 3d printed items could look at that, and design their own lickity split. Or partner with someone like oneguyinashop where he makes a bunch for you and you sell them. It kind of reminds me of the guy that designed the chestnut MFT but refused to sell any plans. He only wanted to sell complete units but quickly found out that selling woodworking projects to woodworkers was a tough sale. Any woodworker with basic skills could look at it and duplicate it. Then you have a guy that sold plans for his mobile MFT cart (sorry I forgot the name) but I know he sold a ton of those plans. I dont have access to eithers financials but I would bet my house that the guy who sold the plans made way more money than the other guy. Good luck, either way
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I believe you misunderstand the restrictions you placed.Steve Rowe said:
What that restriction means is:
1) No one can use the files as well as the *printed* items derived for commercial purposes. Thus making it useless in the context of 80% of this forum members /sure, the enforceability is limited in practice but that is the law/.
2) No one can *offer* the printed items for sale (i.e. derive profit from selling them).
3) However, there is no restriction for any one to print the items *FOR* someone else based on any arrangement, including a commercial one. In such a case, the person ordering such a print is responsible for ensuring the license compliance and still cannot use the items for any commercial use etc.
Analogy:
This is the same way as a copy shop cannot be held liable for someone asking them to copy a copyrighted work - they are the "instrument" here and the rights/no-rights is solely on the entity ordering the service.
The restrictions you put on mean the content you published, and anything produced based on it, is suitable only for private/personal use and in some jurisdictions public education use.
There are no restrictions on how the entities - otherwise entitled to it by the license terms - acquire/produce the items. Including contracting to 3rd parties (i.e. parties not a party to the license terms thus).
Steve Rowe said:
Anyone seeking to share their work should be realistic in their understanding that once you release files, you'd better be prepared to follow through with your war-chest to stop others copying and commercialising your work if it's in demand.
I didn't download it, as I don't see the point really.
But maybe the folks who make that very similar nozzle in cast/machined alloy would have something to say on the matter.
"But maybe the folks who make that very similar nozzle in cast/machined alloy would have something to say on the matter."
I suppose you mean the "insanely priced" product I linked in my reply #6. I wonder which furniture manufacturer uses that particular kit in its production plant. Such kind of kit makes good sense for a production setting.
I suppose you mean the "insanely priced" product I linked in my reply #6. I wonder which furniture manufacturer uses that particular kit in its production plant. Such kind of kit makes good sense for a production setting.
