So what Festool do you >>NOT<< plan to buy (SACRILEGE.....)

[Slartibartfass]

I know people will haunt me for this comment  [scared] but I cannot see myself (yet) shelling out big bucks for a Festool power drill.

Its just a drill, nothing precision/special....!? [embarassed]

 

[rst]

I, too, have trouble imagining that Festools drills can be more useful than my Milwaukees and I use mine equipment in industrial/commercial settings.  That being said, the Festool sanders and track saws are definitely on a higher plane than most of the competition.  And Tanos and Festool storage solutions are mind boggling ,I presently have 43 in use consistently and have tools for another six.

 

[Slartibartfass]

Yup, all the other stuff is special in a certain way. Maybe I'm missing something or I'm not addicted enough (there is still hope.....).

 

[AlexThePalex]

Almost every Festool is on a higher plane than the rest, drills DEFINITELY included, but that doesn't mean every Festool is as useful to you as some might be.

Festools I don't see myself buying any time soon are things like the KA 65, the MX range of mixers, the DSC daimond cutters, polishers like the RAP, Shinex, Pollux, CM 150 chain mortiser, DSC-AG 125 concrete grinder, the Renofix range and the TPE-RS 100 carpet remover.

Also no MFK/OFK 700, KF 5 or PF 1200 in my near future.

 

[Brandon]

Cooltainer, cause it's just silly
Planex drywall sander, cause I don't do drywall
Cms router table, seems interesting but way to overpriced for what it is

Other than that I think I'm open to the rest, by the way I have two of the festool drills and they are great, not sure they're worth three times what I paid for my old panasonics but nice once you spend another $500 on centrotec stuff

 

[Slartibartfass]

I gotta admit I got the Cooltainer. At the bare minimum I can use it for storage (beer anyone)...

 

[festoolviking]

Hi

I doubt I will get a cordless jigsaw. It seems silly to have a cordless saw with a vacuum hose attached. But if you're doing just outdoor work or work where DC isn't important, maybe?

Festoolviking

 

[GhostFist]

Drills and routers are the two things I really like that festool makes. That being said, my frustration with centrotec has been renewed after checking out the Fein cordless drills (very impressive). Fein has their own centrotec, that is essentially identical, with the exception that they fit standard ball detent bits!!!!!!! The chucks are even made by the same people. If Fein had a right angle attachment I'd be sold.

 

[SittingElf]

My hard core addiction does not include the CMS units.  [embarassed]

I already have, and am happy with my existing stand-alone machines. (Sawstop Tablesaw, Incra router table and Jessum lift, DeWalt Scroll Saw, etc...)

I AM interested in virtually everything else though! [tongue]

Cheers,

Frank

 

[Kev]

The drills are excellent!! Not cheap though. I have many!

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I have no need for the SYM 70.

The VS600 is inferior to the Leigh Jigs D4R Pro, particularly when you consider the Isoloc templates.

Probably never a PRECISIO now that I've invested in a CMS-TS and a dedicated TS75 (That'll cover my needs till I have space for a Hammer slider)

RS100 and RS300 sanders are probably a no go, though I'll grab an RS200 one day soon.

I can't see myself ever investing in the high end boom arms and associated kit ... I'll never have a workshop big enough to justify it.

The polishers are off because I've got that covered with ROTEX gear adequately.

The RAS180 is probably awesome, but I'd need to eat steak and eggs three times a day along with 100 chin ups and push ups for a year before I was man enough to handle it [eek]

No to the stirrers , brush scouring machines, Sysports, chain morticers, portable band saws and monster planers.

No to the BS75 ( I'll keep my 75mm AEG ) but I will get the BS105

The PLANEX is possible if I decide to do a lot of re-lining at home ...

This one is doing my head in ... http://www.idealtools.com.au/featured-specials/protool-universal-hammer-chp-45-max-aus-by-protool ... I just don't need and can never see myself using it - but I want it.

 

[erock]

I've always thought that the price tag on the Festool drills was crazy.  Then the CXS was released.  I bought the CXS set, and using the CXS for one weekend changed my mind about the

Festool drills.  So when a Festool Recon sale came around I picked up a C15 set.  I used the right angle attachment to drill some holes for Romex….and after using the drill for the project,

the thought of how much I paid for it was quickly erased from my memory.  I also used the Eccentric chuck a couple times.  Really nice chuck to have for some special occasions. 

They way I looked at the C15 purchase, it was like buying 3 drills in one.  Being able to remove the centrotec chucks to make the drill small has saved my butt a couple times as well.

All my other drills would have been too big to fit into the tight spots that I've put the C15 through.

Now for the Festool stuff I wouldn't buy…..  Due to the price associated with the product  and / or  I simply don't need it.

1.  The Boom Arm set.    [scared]

2.  Sys-Ports.    [eek]

3.  The Workcenter WCR 1000    [huh]

4. The MFH 1000 Multifunction stool.  [unsure]

5.  CMS.  Not unless the full line of accessories was available to North America.    [mad]

6.  Cool-tainer.    [bite tongue]

Eric

 

[wow]

Anything NAINA?

[big grin]

And as much as I crave the green stuff - and as much as I want a PDC - Festool hasn't convinced me to buy one of their drills.

HOWEVER...

If they introduce the PDC to the US and offer a free battery, I fear that resistance would be futile! It would be my first Festool Cordless tool purchase.  And once I had the first cordless, I suspect a carvex and tsc55 would be next, and then
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(as he falls of the cliff of reason and sanity)

 

[insurroundsound]

Same here....i have a hard time wrapping my head around the value of the drills -- at least in my industry [A/V].  You get the drill but they really don't shine unless you get another $500 in bits/accessories.  And then be prepared for some detent compatibility issues or the need to modify some of your existing bits.  No thanks.

If I were a cabinetmaker, I could convince myself of the value of the drills - maybe.  But I have never been slowed down so dramatically in my day-to-day activities by my normal drills that I could tell myself that the centrotec system would pay for itself and save me soooo many lost labor hours.  My Makita BHP454 hammer drill and accompanying impact have powered effortlessly through everything it's ever faced.  And built like a tank; I can't seem to kill em.  So, I'm not trading in my perfectly-fine drills.  But to be quite honest, the drill that gets used 90% of the time during the day is my faithful Milwaukee 12v drill.

But I love the storage solutions, routers, saws, and vacs.  I've actually seen real time savings from using those things.

 

[Ajax]

Woodworking is my hobby, not my profession.  I work out of a small garage and many of my tools (tablesaw, bandsaw, jointer, planer, etc.) are on rollers.  My actual profession pays me enough to enjoy buying good tools.  Festool is not an addiction for me, so I try to justify the extra cost for what I'm getting.  I would do the same when buying hand tools from Lie-Neilsen or Veritas.  So here's my list of Festools that I wouldn't buy:

1) Any drill - I have Bosch 12v and 18v drills.  They work great.  I see no reason to spend 2-3 times the price for a Festool equivalent.

2) Any router table - Again, I'm happy with what I have (a Bosch tabletop model).  If I do upgrade in the future, I would buy a nice table with a lift for under $1000 (e.g. Woodpeckers, Jessem, etc.).  I see no reason to buy a Festool router table since I don't need the portability and I don't see the value in the Festool router table line.

3) Kapex - I have a cheap Craftsman model and it suits me for the limited use it gets.  If I ever do upgrade it would be for a Bosch that is still half the price of the Festool.  I've seen the recent posts here about Kapex problems.  Those posts made me think that the design is not rugged enough to justify the price.  Debris causing the plunge mechanism to fail?  Really?  That's a poor design.

4)  Planex - I don't do that kind of work.

5) Any router - Again, my Bosch routers (large and small) have been working great.  I have 2 of the MRC-23s and a Colt.  I even have a cheapo Craftsman that works quite well.  I use them on the router table, hand held, and with jigs (MortisePal, Leigh Dovetail, Leigh FMT, etc.).  The Festool routers are more expensive and I don't see their enhanced value other than integrating with the Festool track (I have a TS55).  

Just my 2 cents.  I love my Festool sanders, tracksaw, and DF500.  I think a DF700 is in my future, the question is when.  

 

[NHSP759]

No to the Planex and probably won't get the planer as I have a Bosch that works decently. As for anything else??????? C'mon!!!!! I'm switching over as quick as i can!

 

[roblg3]

router table is a no go for sure.  it doesn't do enough.

 

[Throwback7r]

I have a hard time with the drills as well " except for the CXS" I just want something with more tool options " recip saw, etc

 

[Gary in Texas]

I have to concur that the drills are priced too expensive for my taste, or justification.  I have several DeWalt drills in 12V, 18V and 20V, thus, many batteries to go with the fleet....  My big 18V drill is on it's last legs, I was looking at the 20v replacement today (DeWalt) at $200, and I didn't want to spend that much...  But who knows, if I try the CSX, I may love it???

Woodworking is my hobby, with the occasional commission.  I have no problem justifying the TS55 and DF500, and sanders, and Carvex (corded) along with many other Festool tools that I enjoy using. Kapex, maybe eventually.  I can't see getting the router table, I have the Incra router table with the master lift.... Along with a garage full of stationary tools.  I justify my Festool purchases based on improved dust collection, and how they can improve my work, whether it be safety (no cutting sheets of plywood on the cabinet saw any more), health or simple ease of use.....

I'm sure I will buy more Festool products, but more selectively with the balance of tools available....

 

[Jesse Cloud]

Hey, I'm old, I've paid my dues, wish I could get back all that time I spent putting up mud and polishing it.  No more drywall, not even with a Festool.  Thanks but no thanks Planex!

 

[Fury5]

I felt the same way about the drills for a long time.  Price difference over my old Dewalts never seemed worth it.  But recently, I broke down and bought the CXS after trying it out at a dealer.  I am now glad I did.  The principal advantages for me are its super-light weight, the belt clip and the right angle attachment.  I mostly use it as an electric screw driver rather than for drilling holes.  It doesn't have the power of my 18v Dewalt, but it is much less fatiguing to use for long periods (I tend to use screws more than nails) and much easier to manage when going up and down a ladder.

Cheers,