Someone's getting scared...
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PaulMarcel
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A change would need to be more than just modular storage. Will be interesting to watch. Scan a couple pages 
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Yes, a whole lot of us who take seriously the quality of the woodworking services we sell have been using Porter Cable tools for decades.
Back in 1948 PC made the very first router I purchased and I continued buying PC routers ever since.
Beside making a lot of money using virtually every power tool that Festool sells in the USA, and a couple of sophisticated Felder shapers and my CNC machines, my shop makes very effective use of 6 Woodpecker router tables, all running PC 7518 router motors.
These days I personally no longer work on sites. But back in the day, and this was before Woodpecker, I owned other brands of router tables. They weighed more than a modern CMS, but the rolled on and off my trucks and were set up, calibrated and ready to work as soon as I set the brakes on their casters. All were using PC 7518 routers.
I respect and admire Festool for inventing and manufacturing the CMS and then battling UL for years to bring it to the USA. I believe I am 'at one' with my wood when I use the MFK700, the OF1010 and the OF2200, but trust me, I am equally 'at one' when using a PC 7518 in a well-made router table.
Back in 1948 PC made the very first router I purchased and I continued buying PC routers ever since.
Beside making a lot of money using virtually every power tool that Festool sells in the USA, and a couple of sophisticated Felder shapers and my CNC machines, my shop makes very effective use of 6 Woodpecker router tables, all running PC 7518 router motors.
These days I personally no longer work on sites. But back in the day, and this was before Woodpecker, I owned other brands of router tables. They weighed more than a modern CMS, but the rolled on and off my trucks and were set up, calibrated and ready to work as soon as I set the brakes on their casters. All were using PC 7518 routers.
I respect and admire Festool for inventing and manufacturing the CMS and then battling UL for years to bring it to the USA. I believe I am 'at one' with my wood when I use the MFK700, the OF1010 and the OF2200, but trust me, I am equally 'at one' when using a PC 7518 in a well-made router table.
I've had PC routers for over 20 years. 693 and 7518. The latter runs in my table. Never had an issue with either one, and the spiral base for height was brilliant.
Then I got my Festools ......
Then I got my Festools ......
Sparktrician
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I've used a P-C 8529 plunge router with my older line-boring jig for a dozen years or so before moving to the OF 1010 and LR 32 combination. The ergonomics of the 8529 are quite good, almost as good as the OF 2200.
Luckily at least for now PC continues to offer the big routers - 7518 and the plunger. Not sure how much longer now that PC is positioned below Dewalt. My 7518 is a workhorse in my table. Also have the 7529 which I really enjoy using. It has a unique feature in that it is micro adjustable with the plunge lock in the middle position. You don't adjust a stop screw or stop rod. It actually moves up and down with the turret adjustment. Why no one else builds that feature in beats me as it is so very useful. Don't see me purchasing any more PC products as everything I have looked at recently sure appeared to have gone backwards on quality. Wonder if they still offer the big powerful belt sanders? I don't ever need one but they used to be a common sight.
Paul, the survey was online and when finished it isn't accessible anymore, but there were no pictures of PC products at all, every page was a picture of a Festool tool or Sysport. They were basically listing the features of Festool Systainers and asking which of those features I'd pay extra for.
I've got a PC router in a router cabinet I made and I'm quite happy with it. I was very happy with my PC sanders before I got my first Festool sander and didn't smell like cedar for a day after making an Adirondack chair. Maybe it was watching Norm for all that time, but for a long time my tools were all Delta or PC. Now it seems that both brands have lost their way through a bunch of corporate buyouts. I always thought PC was professional and Black and Decker home user quality, but then they were the same company so PC lost all its credibility. Seeing PC routers all half apart and broken on the shelves of Home Depot didn't help their image either - make them look like cheap toys.
I've got a PC router in a router cabinet I made and I'm quite happy with it. I was very happy with my PC sanders before I got my first Festool sander and didn't smell like cedar for a day after making an Adirondack chair. Maybe it was watching Norm for all that time, but for a long time my tools were all Delta or PC. Now it seems that both brands have lost their way through a bunch of corporate buyouts. I always thought PC was professional and Black and Decker home user quality, but then they were the same company so PC lost all its credibility. Seeing PC routers all half apart and broken on the shelves of Home Depot didn't help their image either - make them look like cheap toys.
sprior said:
Wow if they think that people only but festool due to the Tanos stuff then they are missing what we call in my business Festools "distinctive competence" or what motivates the buyer to buy festool.
Geez. And my bandsaw and drill press are PC.
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