Special Edition FOG Systainers

[Brice Burrell]

I already got 'em.  [tongue]

Are these painted?

 

[peter halle]

Brice,

I think those were a Festool promotion 75th anniversary edition.  Notice the semi- transparent sticker on the front of picture 2.  Stay tuned for possibly some renderings this weekend of what I perceive to be potentially possible based on my conversations and research and also affordable as possible.

Peter

 

[AlexThePalex]

I already got 'em.  [tongue]

Are these painted?

No Brice, the blue one is the real deal. Some sort of special edition systainer. Once in a while Festool puts out a batch of different coloured systainers. So far I think I've seen green, red, blue, yellow and brown.

It's a shame though how the grey systainers turn yellowish over time, as you can see in the bottom picture. It's the plastic reacting to sunlight. Note how they're still grey where the labels used to be. Very ugly. This is the worst discolouring I have seen though until now. The owner must have stored them in a place right in the sun.

They're not mine by the way, it's just a picture from a guy who put them for sale. I'm not gonna buy them though, I'm not a fan of all these different coloured systainers, I like the uniformity of the standard grey.

 

[jonny round boy]

I already got 'em.  [tongue]

Are these painted?

No Brice, the blue one is the real deal. Some sort of special edition systainer. Once in a while Festool puts out a batch of different coloured systainers. So far I think I've seen green, red, blue, yellow and brown.

It's a shame though how the grey systainers turn yellowish over time, as you can see in the bottom picture. It's the plastic reacting to sunlight. Note how they're still grey where the labels used to be. Very ugly. This is the worst discolouring I have seen though until now. The owner must have stored them in a place right in the sun.

They're not mine by the way, it's just a picture from a guy who put them for sale. I'm not gonna buy them though, I'm not a fan of all these different coloured systainers, I like the uniformity of the standard grey.

I think the 'blue' one is probably black. Tanos do make them in black, as well as 2 shades of blue. Niether of the blues is anywhere near as dark as the one in the picture, so I reckon it is the black colour.

 

[Holzhacker]

John as much as I may agree (somewhat) with some of your points about Festool policies and pricing, I think maybe you are too 'something' to remember the advantages of Systainers. Sometimes I find stacking, unstacking, latching and unlatching Systainers a pain but then I remember the alternative. In my case mud buckets and multiple tool cases. I'm doing a job right now removing and re-installing ~ 40 doors. I'm using my CT with a stack of Sys on top, the 4' fiberglass ladder sits on top of the handle. I can wheel this set-up in and out with little effort.
The Sys 3 holds the Sawzall, cordless Paslode and numerous other things. If you are in the trades, you know how big the sawzall and paslode cases are. One Sys 3 eliminates two large cases that do not fit together or easily strap. Another advantage of the Sys, at least for me working in an urban environment, Sys are anonymous. No obvious labels or names indicating expensive power tools waiting to be stolen. The scumbags don't generally know what 'festool' indicates.
I stack and unstack my Sys on top of the CT in a particular order, this makes organization far superior than mud buckets. A Sys 2 is now my 'basic bucket'. Getting hand tools out of a Sys 2 is far better than digging through a bucket. Sys may not be perfect but they sure are better than the alternatives of the past.
It seems Festool and Tanos are missing out on a potentially very lucrative product. A lighter, cheaper but sturdy Sysport designed for those who travel with stacks of Sys would probably sell very well.

 

[Wood_Junkie]

A lighter, cheaper but sturdy Sysport designed for those who travel with stacks of Sys would probably sell very well.

Homemade single stack sysport with a permanently attached dolly?  In other words, the dolly is incorporated into the construction and forms part of the frame....
Slide out drawers and all...

Somebody good with Sketchup (not me, yet...) make a picture.  [wink]

 

[AlexThePalex]

I already got 'em.  [tongue]

Are these painted?

No Brice, the blue one is the real deal. Some sort of special edition systainer. Once in a while Festool puts out a batch of different coloured systainers. So far I think I've seen green, red, blue, yellow and brown.

It's a shame though how the grey systainers turn yellowish over time, as you can see in the bottom picture. It's the plastic reacting to sunlight. Note how they're still grey where the labels used to be. Very ugly. This is the worst discolouring I have seen though until now. The owner must have stored them in a place right in the sun.

They're not mine by the way, it's just a picture from a guy who put them for sale. I'm not gonna buy them though, I'm not a fan of all these different coloured systainers, I like the uniformity of the standard grey.

I think the 'blue' one is probably black. Tanos do make them in black, as well as 2 shades of blue. Niether of the blues is anywhere near as dark as the one in the picture, so I reckon it is the black colour.

Most certainly not. You sort of make the classic mistake that a lot of people make when they say Festool's are black. This systainer here really is the dark Festool blue, which, in dark rooms almost looks as if its black. However, if you see them in the full sunlight, you realise it's a very dark blue.

 

[Brice Burrell]

A lighter, cheaper but sturdy Sysport designed for those who travel with stacks of Sys would probably sell very well.

Homemade single stack sysport with a permanently attached dolly?  In other words, the dolly is incorporated into the construction and forms part of the frame....
Slide out drawers and all...

Somebody good with Sketchup (not me, yet...) make a picture.   [wink]

I love this idea! I know my way around Sketchup, if I get some time I'll draw it up.

 

[score0matic]

Brice,
I would suggest that you go with stamped steel drawers  that use the spugami straps to lock in the sys'

I would also make it Modular:

1 A 2 Wheel cart/base the height  of a sys 5+1 and 3 drawers. 

2 "PortCubes"  of the same demention that woudl stack and latch on the base.

3 Mountable shelving that would allow you to latch "PortCubes" in your shop, Van, trailer.

My Tallest kits are Sys1 + Sys3 + Sys2  and those are mostly tools + sorts + parts and I am guessing that would be the same for 95% of other users.

Craig

 

[score0matic]

John as much as I may agree (somewhat) with some of your points about Festool policies and pricing, I think maybe you are too 'something' to remember the advantages of Systainers. Sometimes I find stacking, unstacking, latching and unlatching Systainers a pain but then I remember the alternative. In my case mud buckets and multiple tool cases. I'm doing a job right now removing and re-installing ~ 40 doors. I'm using my CT with a stack of Sys on top, the 4' fiberglass ladder sits on top of the handle. I can wheel this set-up in and out with little effort.
The Sys 3 holds the Sawzall, cordless Paslode and numerous other things. If you are in the trades, you know how big the sawzall and paslode cases are. One Sys 3 eliminates two large cases that do not fit together or easily strap. Another advantage of the Sys, at least for me working in an urban environment, Sys are anonymous. No obvious labels or names indicating expensive power tools waiting to be stolen. The scumbags don't generally know what 'festool' indicates.
I stack and unstack my Sys on top of the CT in a particular order, this makes organization far superior than mud buckets. A Sys 2 is now my 'basic bucket'. Getting hand tools out of a Sys 2 is far better than digging through a bucket. Sys may not be perfect but they sure are better than the alternatives of the past.
It seems Festool and Tanos are missing out on a potentially very lucrative product. A lighter, cheaper but sturdy Sysport designed for those who travel with stacks of Sys would probably sell very well.

This is worth being read Twice.

Craig

 

[AlexThePalex]

Another advantage of the Sys, at least for me working in an urban environment, Sys are anonymous. No obvious labels or names indicating expensive power tools waiting to be stolen. The scumbags don't generally know what 'festool' indicates.

This must be one of those 'cultural differences' as somebody not long ago referred to the differences between the USA and The Netherlands. Because over here, a systainer is synonymous for "Pot o' gold".  [blink]

Agree with all the rest you say though. Systainers make tool transport and organisation a delight.

 

[peter halle]

Good Evening,

I would like to thank those who have helped urge members to pass on information to me via this thread:  Tell us what sizes and quantities you want

Here is where we are based on everything received up to the time of this post:

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Tomorrow I hope to post some renderings of what I feel are real possibilities based on my research along with a poll to vote on what you like and don't.

Peter

 

[Bob Marino]

I am just going to take a moment to say "thanks" to Pete for taking all this time and effort, his own time and effort, to do something "nice" for the members here. I'll leave it at that.

  Bob

 

[bobbobbob]

I agree wholeheartedly with Bob M.  Definitely above and beyond for a 'moderator'! 

 

[peter halle]

Thanks Guys,

The real credit has to go to the other guys who knew how to bring ideas into a realistic vision.

What I'm doing is something that anyone else could do.

Peter

 

[Bob Marino]

Thanks Guys,

The real credit has to go to the other guys who knew how to bring ideas into a realistic vision.

What I'm doing is something that anyone else could do.

Peter

  No need for thanks to us sayin' thanks. Hell, it  took me less than a minute for me to write it and can't imagine how many hours that you have invested in this project; and a thanks  to all the others contributing.

Yes, perhaps "anyone" could have done it, the fact remains, you were the only "anyone". 

Bob

 

[peter halle]

Bob,

I'll pop the bottle of Fesbrew once this puppy is all grown up and out the door.  In the meantime, maybe i can get one of the guys (now that they are bored  [big grin]) to design one of these and fix the crooked label:

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Peter

 

[score0matic]

the "simple fix" to that label would to ingest  1/2 of the containers contents

 

[waynelang2001]

I already got 'em.  [tongue]

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[attachthumb=2]

GREEN HANDLES!!! that was my idea! [doh] im not a fan of the festool grey systainers really, they get messy very quickly im going to be swapping mine out over time for a darker colour i reckon. BRING ON THE FOGtainer! [not worthy]

 

[hgporter]

... He confirmed that the green latches are a Festool exclusive.  Yesterday I learned that the locking latches are only available on the blue latches - not the blue you want.  ...

Peter

Perhaps Festool will participate in this. But knowing corporate cultures, I'd bet their marketing people would take a bit of selling. Also, remember you are infringing on a unique selling factor and a form of trademark for Festool. They also sell systainers.

As far as the Exclusive green latches, You could buy the green latches from Festool.

It would take a bit of experimenting, but perhaps a CAD/CAM shop could engrave a logo in the formed latch. Another alternative is an engraved or cast "coin" that could be inset into the lid or latch or applied with epoxy. Specialty promotion businesses can provide these in small quantities.

Solutions exist to get what you want. The question will be at what cost?