STM 1800 Quality (Changed Subject to Shipping Damage Issues?)

[FestitaMakool]

I believe you picked the right “terminal”
I noticed that there where two types, if I recall correctly, the one you have pointed out sits on the  narrower bar.
I don’t have my table to check, but I recall there where two types of “clips”, which I like to name them, one to compensate in height for the bar that slides into the other beefier bar.

 

[sancho57]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member]

Thanks. I wanted some extra brackets (terminals) to add a couple of work tables to the stm like Sedge showed in FT Live and Frank showed at FT International.

Im really liking mine. Right now its being used to hold ssome 2x12x8' pine for a top toa 6' bar/sideboard Im building right now. I have no regrets buying this it has made my life easy and will make it easier.

Tomorrow Im giong to be using it when I edge joint those boards with my TS 55

Though it dont show it in the photo. I ran them through my 12" makita planer Im going to be using the 700 domino to join them to kake the top. Te stm will come in handy for that to

 

[peter halle]

I ordered a couple of the brackets that Sedge showed in his video and received them.  I will have to search for the paperwork but they are available, or at least were thru the ekat.

Will post numbers later.

Peter

 

[ADKMedic]

[member=2165]Martin Johnson[/member], mine arrived on Friday and it had almost the exact same problem.  However, the tip of mine actually broke off when I unscrewed the nut.  My thought process is that this happened in the factory.  The box it came in had no abnormal damage to it, and the unit itself had no indication that it took any damage.  I can't see how that pin would bend when it sits behind two layers of metal, and no indication of any "trauma" to the box or STM itself. 

ToolNut is trying to make it right, but I have to wait two weeks for the parts to come into Festool.  Also, I am led to believe that I am not the only one ToolNut has had to deal with on this issue. 

Andy

 

[FestitaMakool]

[member=10147]jobsworth[/member]  I watched those myself. But, I wasn’t confident by using only two clips.. it seems wobbly. It depends on use of course. I would use 4 if space enough.
I’ve even thought of adding a sheet of ply or mdf myself for various uses, but I’m gonna look into to see if there’s another solution to secure a sheet to the outriggers.
I’ve got so much else to occupy my head and hands to, but it’s hard to resist som tool-LEGO!  [big grin]

[member=9489]ADKMedic[/member]
That’s questionable; a pin broken and none markings on the box.. these pins are not exactly small. No flat spots in the cardboard?
Anyway, I’m sure your dealer and FT makes it up and running as it should.

 

[sancho57]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member]

I was thinking of drilling a couple of holes on a work top and using the FT rapid clamps to clamp a work top to the STM.  use pocket hole to screw a couple of pieces of wood to cradle the STMs tubing then clamp the work top to the STM , Lots of ways to do it I guess But i just heard from Peter yeah the pn I noted is correct so Im good, I order 4 of the brackets so it 2 dont work Ill try 4

 

[rst]

I just put together my STM that was delivered this morning.  Both latching pins on the flipup stop end were bent so badly the module would no unscrew.  Took me awhile to figure out how to get the arms out of the main frames.  Just sent pics to Festool USA hopefully quick replacements.

 

[ChuckM]

Anyone following this thread can't but wonder if all these "nuts & bolts" problems were due to shipping or to manufacturing defects.

 

[DeformedTree]

Anyone following this thread can't but wonder if all these "nuts & bolts" problems were due to shipping or to manufacturing defects.

So I saw the UPS person grunting it out of the truck, it's a rather heavy object for them, and not small. So there is probably some level of that.  The box was an ok box, but maybe needed to be a bit beefier.

It's designed to be light, it's made out of thin metal, that fits inside each other. So it's going to be a compromise.

They should have made a systainer to ship it in  [big grin]

I would say the general design makes it prone to damage.  Big Levers made out of thin Metal.  I don't think anyone would pay for a Carbon Fiber version.

 

[FestitaMakool]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member]

I was thinking of drilling a couple of holes on a work top and using the FT rapid clamps to clamp a work top to the STM.  use pocket hole to screw a couple of pieces of wood to cradle the STMs tubing then clamp the work top to the STM , Lots of ways to do it I guess But i just heard from Peter yeah the pn I noted is correct so Im good, I order 4 of the brackets so it 2 dont work Ill try 4

Good idea. I’m gonna order them brackets too, see if I can get creative with what can be fixated to them. Since the typical mid-age eyesight demands good lighting for me and “binoculars” are mandatory to see small details I was thinking maybe a light that can be quickly positioned on one of the outriggers might be useful. A SYS3 XXL which I plan to use as a toolbox for those longer more fragile tools such as Japan pull saws, levels, rulers and such would be nice to just lift up on the outriggers and secure it easy, so I can work straight out of the open SYS as a toolbox up high. When used as a cutting table for large sheets it can be cleared quite quickly.

 

[rst]

I'm pretty sure that my pinning modules were bent/broked in assembly...my box was not damaged.  I'm think my STM was damaged by someone dropping the table on the ends, resulting on the pins being bent to the point they would not move.  When I unscrewed the one the pin actually broke as it was bent so bad.  The other module came out but the pin was badly bent.  Despite the damage I can see that this is going to be a great tool.  I have two 60 x 49 MFT style MDF panels that I presently cut on supported by two 8' 1530 8020 extrusions.  I will be making another single 4x8 MFT drilled support for use on the STM.

 

[sancho57]

[member=71478]FestitaMakool[/member]

One thing I dont want to do, is lose the ability to fold it and store it under a MFT. So whatever I do, I want to be able to fold it.

I used it today to straight line rip/ joint 4 ea 2" X 12" x 8' pieces of pine with my TS 55. I had no guilt feeling cutting those small pieces of wood like I would if I was cutting into my MFT.

I was surprised how stable it was handling the weight and sise of that lumber. Locked the casters and it was solid

 

[Martin Johnson]

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This is what I built using my STM 1800...

The width of this is space is 9'
shiplap - painted and hauled
faux 3 1/2" thick x 9' long x 8" deep floating pine timbers with special walnut stain
maple butcherblock table top - cut to size, hauled and fitted and removed several times...with special walnut stain

Tools Used:
TS55
CT22
Rotex 150
ETS 150
Kapex 120
Bostitch 15 GA and 16 GA Finish Nailers and Grex Pin Nailer 23GA
T-18+3 Drill to attach counter top

Happy Wife, and it matches the kitchen perfectly.

 

[FestitaMakool]

That’s a welcoming space Martin!
Impressed by your eager to put the table to work.

[member=10147]jobsworth[/member] Agreed, it’s it’s ability to collapse and store fast and easy that’s intriguing. Anything I’ll make for it will be of easy on, easy off. I will not have space for a large centered heavy table.

 

[sancho57]

It can do so many things to make my life benig able to fold it and store it out of the way is a big plus. I was using it today to set that table top on sand with my RO 150 to flatten it andthen use the 850 with the undulating head to make it look rustic,

the dremel really helps with the rustic effect to

 

[sancho57]

Mines came with absolutely no problems

 

[nclemmons]

Received my STM-1800 from ToolNut this week.  Took me about 30 minutes to assemble.  Zero damage in shipping and the unit was a bit heavier than I expected, at about 80 pounds. 

I did pre-drill the holes for attaching the wooden blocks to the four clips.  And used a magnetized Torx bit which made it very easy to attach them.

Appreciated the feedback from the early recipients on your experience.

 

[jeh]

Mine arrived with no issues. I did note when putting the empty box in my track it was heavier than I expected it to be. I think Festool went out of their way to make a tough box for shipping.

 

[nclemmons]

Well I spoke too soon.  Turns out that one of the pull pins was bent on the extension wing with the flip tab for loading sheet goods. 

I tried to straighten it and it broke.  Called Festool and they are sending out a replacement.

I have a project I need to get underway, so I filed down the two broken pieces, drilled and tapped each with 6/32 threads and used a 3/4" piece of a 6/32 screw to repair the broken pin till a new one shows up.

This sure looks to be shipping damage from the box being dropped and the extension wings getting banged in and bending the pin.

Loading the table was really easy and it's very sturdy.  Looking forward to using it!

 

[DeformedTree]

I have a project I need to get underway, so I filed down the two broken pieces, drilled and tapped each with 6/32 threads and used a 3/4" piece of a 6/32 screw to repair the broken pin till a new one shows up.

You contaminated it with inch threads, it will never be the same.  [tongue]

The festool designer of it right now is flipping through the internet trying to figure out what a 6/32 is.