Strangest thing in the woodcraft flyer

[PA floor guy]

Got the woodcraft flyer today. I seen the weirdest thing, a whole lineup of new Festool tools.  I wasn't sure what they were till it hit me.  "THERE DUST CONTAINMENT VACS". I forgot what they looked like.  Since my 5 vacs have NO hose garages, and the numerous people I have gotten hooked on Festool, all there vacs are mostly "shattered". 
  I am appalled by this. Really sours me on my favorite tool.

 

[Nat X]

Congratulations. You just posted on the internet.

 

[Pnw painter]

Huh??? [emoji15]

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[PeterK]

Is the OP commenting on the newer style dust collectors with the hose garages?
What is the problem with that? I suppose someone could crack one but mine survived many abuses and I don't know anyone else who had a problem with them.

 

[semenza]

To clarify...............

The OP is trying to drive home a point. The fact that he has five CTs with five broken hose garages. By saying he doesn't recognize the ones in the flyer even though they are the same vac because the ones pictured in the flyer all have intact hose garages.  [poke]

Seth

 

[nickao]

Can I see a picture of these broken hose garages. I am wondering where they crack or break, I have had no issues.

 

[copcarcollector]

Can I see a picture of these broken hose garages. I am wondering where they crack or break, I have had no issues.

Just a couple I found on a FOG thread, I have seen other pics elsewhere

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[Pnw painter]

If you leave your vac in the bed of your truck rolling around you'll probably crack hose garage. A GC I work with did this a couple weeks ago. Since his vac wasn't secured he blamed himself.

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[tjbnwi]

If you leave your vac in the bed of your truck rolling around you'll probably crack hose garage. A GC I work with did this a couple weeks ago. Since his vac wasn't secured he blamed himself.

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Simple rule----secure all loads.

Tom

 

[Cheese]

Simple rule----secure all loads.

That's the reason bungee and ratchet straps are sold...

 

[semenza]

I am not sure we can assume that not being secured is why the OP's vac broke.

But securing all loads is general good advice.

Seth

 

[PA floor guy]

Seth your correct.  In all counts.  As far as my traveling with the tools.  I have a racked out sprinter, all my vacs have a home.  They dont fly around in the van.  These vacs have all broken from normal use. Believe me, I take good care of my festools. 

 

[nickao]

NO way that can happen under normal use. Please give me a scenario.

The unit tipping over on a concrete floor is normal use. And that has never damaged any of mine.
Sucking up dust and the thing just crackin g from tugging on the hose would be normal use.

Normal use is the unit sucking dust, I don't understand  how normal use includes contact to the unit itself. Those pictures show contact or some kind of force, plastic just doesn't crack for no reason. My units dont get hit or suffer contact other than falling over every now and again.

 

[Vondawg]

Let's be real..."no way?" We all work under different circumstances... none of my vacs (3) have broke but shite  happens, and not all working situations are the same.

 

[Woodhack]

If you leave your vac in the bed of your truck rolling around you'll probably crack hose garage. A GC I work with did this a couple weeks ago. Since his vac wasn't secured he blamed himself.

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One of mine is cracked in the same spot as one of those pics [big grin] but, Im sure I earned it. I really abuse my tools unfortunately because I live a life of chaos. I will say this. No shop vac can handle the drywall dust thrashing I have been giving the ct 26s I own. I also tend to forget to secure them once in a while in the truck. Ooops.

 

[ewils91]

I've had good luck with my mini but on a cold day I cracked mine just inserting my hose in the hose cut out. But it was about 10 degrees below zero Fahrenheit. I have learned not to say somethings impossible though. Seen some crazy stuff.

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

I have broke 4 hose garages on my midi's and ct36.  Unfortunately its the same old thing.  Festool knows there's a problem but will not admit it, same is true with the Kapex, the new "improved hose ends" and carvex issues.  Sometimes there's flaws,  please address them and fix the issues and stop pretending that Festool is perfect!  [member=101]Festool USA[/member] [member=57769]TylerC[/member]

 

[TylerC]

Hose garages certainly can break, but we don't have a lot of reports of them. While there are exceptions to every rule, they usually break from rough usage and accidents. I'll continue to look into it and see if there's a larger quality issue that needs to be addressed, but so far this doesn't seem to be a common problem.

 

[Laminator]

A bungee cord maybe,but I would be afraid to put a ratchet strap in contact with  a hose garage.  The plastic is very thin and I think it becomes more brittle with age.  The new one I just installed on my ct26 seem much less brittle than the broken one I replaced.

 

[leakyroof]

I've read all the complaints and can sympathize, although I haven't lost a Vac garage yet with my own Vacs. Working on modern cars day in and day out, we see plastic fail all the time.
Cold temps are not friendly to thin plastic. We have to bring cars in from the cold and warm them up a fair amount before trying to remove plastic trim on either exterior or the interior.
If you ignore this, you can actually cut your hands pretty bad from snapped or jagged plastic that just shattered from you stressing it out while it's still chilled.
In the case of the Garages, I can easily see a minor bump starting a stress crack that you  miss in low light conditions, and that crack getting worse over time.
The reinforcement by way of epoxy on the backside of a Garage is interesting, but I think not needed if the plastic was stronger and less prone to cracking.