Suggestions For A Blade For My HK85 In The US

[alltracman78]

I'm looking for a replacement blade for my HK85.
Since I'm in the US I can't pick one up from Festool.
Ideally I'd love to find a nice crosscut blade, as well as a good rip blade once mine is unsharpenable (the saw comes with a 24 tooth rip blade).

It takes a 230mm blade (which is almost exactly 9 inches) with a 30mm arbor (which is just under 1.25 inches).
TS75 blades fit I believe but are obviously too small for full cut capacity.
I can find 9 inch blades over here, but they seem to mostly be 5/8 arbor, with some 1 inch arbors thrown in. Which are too small so I can't even use a reducing ring (which I'd prefer to avoid anyways).

I did find this, which would work for rough cutting, possibly crosscutting. I don't know how well it would do for fine cutting though.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001IWRRU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A7E2FBUNXT0TG&th=1

I found this on Amazon UK but it seems even more sketchy...https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y3723DC/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=APVB5IVDJXT38&psc=1

This Bosch on Amazon de, not sure how good it would be for fine cutting?https://www.amazon.de/Bosch-Speedli...e29-8c3f-534b23797488&pd_rd_i=B0014GUV6C&th=1

Amazon de has several other options, but none seem good quality?

I found this Leitz part number 166364 but can't seem to find anywhere that sells it?

Some of you definitely have more experience with this than I do, is anyone able to magic up some links I couldn't find?
Please and thank you.

*Has to be a place willing to ship to the US. I found numerous that won't ship here*

 

[Coen]

Huh. HK 85 blades shouldn't be under embargo for shipment to the USA???

I did find this, which would work for rough cutting, possibly crosscutting. I don't know how well it would do for fine cutting though.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001IWRRU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A7E2FBUNXT0TG&th=1

What is the kerf width?

I found this on Amazon UK but it seems even more sketchy...https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y3723DC/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=APVB5IVDJXT38&psc=1

10 bucks, zero info. You have 10 fingers too. What are the chances they didn't weld the teeth on properly and one goes airborne on you?

This Bosch on Amazon de, not sure how good it would be for fine cutting?https://www.amazon.de/Bosch-Speedli...e29-8c3f-534b23797488&pd_rd_i=B0014GUV6C&th=1

HK 85 blades have 2.5mm kerf, this blad has 2.8mm. So you end up sawing off a little more of the guide rail strip, if you use your HK  85 on a rail. Unless you adjust the base. And then still.. when you change for another original 2.5mm blade it's off again.

I found this Leitz part number 166364 but can't seem to find anywhere that sells it?

Don't worry, that's a 260mm blade so won't even fit.

I'd be more than happy to ship you a few blades, but as a private citizen I can't deduct the VAT (19% in Germany, 21% in the Netherlands) when I ship it out. Businesses can. So in theory they should be able to do it a lot cheaper. The 24 teeth original blade is about €50 in Germany. Shipping starts at €20 for up to 2 kg (=2 blades, maybe 3 when cardboard packaging mostly removed?, would have to weigh them). I might be able to pick them up from a German DHL locker and put them straight back in after swiping the debit card.. destination;USA. A ride to Germany by bicycle fits neatly between my end of shift and dinnertime.  [cool]

There is also this set;https://www.toolstation.nl/hm-cirkelzaagbladen/p21099
But again no info on the kerf width. Maybe they don't list it so they can manufacture with wide tolerances...  [unsure]

If you search on European sites, look for 'blade 230x30'
Inches as a unit of measurement over here went to where it belongs; the grave.

 

[Coen]

There is also some Blades on the Axminster site;https://www.axminstertools.com/us/axcaliber-contract-tct-saw-blade-230mm-x-2-2mm-x-30mm-t28-800063
Including a 28T blade that they list as 2.2mm but says 2.4mm on the blade itself  :

Four of those 28T blades incl. shipping to USA seems to be $105.

Seems they don't have the original Festool blades

 

[Svar]

I don't see the problem. If you are considering Amazon.de, why not just buy genuine Festool HK85 cross cut blade right there (ships to US):https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Festool-...ef=sr_1_3?crid=1JD9APT1MER20&keywords=festool+230+blade&qid=1689973854&s=diy&sprefix=festool+230+blade%2Cdiy%2C218&sr=1-3

 

[Coen]

I don't see the problem. If you are considering Amazon.de, why not just buy genuine Festool HK85 cross cut blade right there (ships to US):https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Festool-...ef=sr_1_3?crid=1JD9APT1MER20&keywords=festool+230+blade&qid=1689973854&s=diy&sprefix=festool+230+blade%2Cdiy%2C218&sr=1-3

Good price, even for Germany itself. The Amazon shipping rate is nice too.

 

[alltracman78]

Thanks Coen, I appreciate it.

I don't see the problem. If you are considering Amazon.de, why not just buy genuine Festool HK85 cross cut blade right there (ships to US):https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Festool-...ef=sr_1_3?crid=1JD9APT1MER20&keywords=festool+230+blade&qid=1689973854&s=diy&sprefix=festool+230+blade%2Cdiy%2C218&sr=1-3

It didn't come up in my search.
I looked for 230mm blades, but didn't put Festool in because I didn't want to clutter up the search with stuff that wouldn't ship over here.
That's perfect. Thank you.

 

[alltracman78]

Found some on ebay UK for about the same price as the ones on Amazon. Plus they had the rip blade instead of the AP blade.
I might have done the Amazon ones if they had the non VAT price and I knew exactly what I would be paying.

 

[Coen]

How would you not know? Amazon lists the price with VAT already included.

Or do you have some kind of tax upon importing into the USA?

 

[alltracman78]

I don't have to pay VAT. So if the price is listed with VAT, it's not the price I'm supposed to pay. Most places I've seen list the VAT and non VAT price.
I didn't know if they would honor that, or even notice. And being in Germany I didn't know if I would end up talking to someone that would easily understand or not.
Easier to do it from the UK in this case.

I would get taxed through Amazon or Ebay, but it's less than VAT.

 

[alltracman78]

They also didn't have the rip blade listed. And shipping for 1 blade from Europe is alot.

I would have ordered 2 crosscut blades from there if that was it, but I found the uk place with the rip and crosscut blades so I could combine shipping with all 3.

Just a little easier/better overall from ebay in this particular case.

 

[Svar]

Found some on ebay UK for about the same price as the ones on Amazon. Plus they had the rip blade instead of the AP blade.
I might have done the Amazon ones if they had the non VAT price and I knew exactly what I would be paying.

Amazon.de (or any other European one for that matter) shows price with VAT, but subtracts it (~19%) automatically at checkout if your shipping address is US. You will see the final price before the last purchase click.

 

[Coen]

Found some on ebay UK for about the same price as the ones on Amazon. Plus they had the rip blade instead of the AP blade.
I might have done the Amazon ones if they had the non VAT price and I knew exactly what I would be paying.

Amazon.de (or any other European one for that matter) shows price with VAT, but subtracts it (~19%) automatically at checkout if your shipping address is US. You will see the final price before the last purchase click.

Ha the best was that period when they did the VAT calculation wrong and it was cheaper to have things shipped to NL (21% VAT) than have them shipped to a German address (19% VAT). Let's say you had an item costing €100 excluding VAT, meaning €119 including the 19% German VAT. Then they did; €119 * 0.81 to remove the German VAT and then *1,21 to add the Dutch VAT. Such newbie error. They should have divided by 1.19, not multiplied by 0.81  [big grin]

My economics teacher did a calculation like that in every exam for two years and for like 25% of the class it cost them a point each and every exam [tongue].