SYMMETRIC 70
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I don't think it's a great idea, you can't see (or use) the protractor angles and it reduces the cutting capacity. I prefer the saw without this addition. It is a brilliant saw though. Tiny, light, really accurate, great dust collection. Mine gets far more use than the Kapex. These SYM-70 saws have been around for ages and I'd be pretty sure that they do not have a record for motors expiring...
As above, the saw is better without.
Its a fantastic saw, very underrated i think, my dealer said mine was the first one he had sold in ages and ages.
Funny thing is, since I got this, I've not used the Kapex for skirting / architrave etc etc at all
Dale
Its a fantastic saw, very underrated i think, my dealer said mine was the first one he had sold in ages and ages.
Funny thing is, since I got this, I've not used the Kapex for skirting / architrave etc etc at all
Dale
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Well said Mr Dale. It is a brilliant saw. Take it anywhere easily. For smaller stuff - I think the cut is better and so is dust collection than it is with the Kapex. And for dissecting angles this thing is stunning. These SYM-70 saws are about as old as I am and really reliable. Buy one and your Kapex will last a lot longer.
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Adjustable square 491053 with the SYM-70 is brilliant for angles. The fence adjusts to the shape of the adjustable square and the saw bisects the angle perfectly every time.
I don't understand why these saws are so rare and few and far between - what with all the posts about Kapex saw deaths I'd have thought the SYM-70 would be far more popular as they live (and last) for years.
I don't understand why these saws are so rare and few and far between - what with all the posts about Kapex saw deaths I'd have thought the SYM-70 would be far more popular as they live (and last) for years.
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Well said yet again Mr Dale, I agree with every word.
The Kapex is hugely impressive and has many great stand out features, but the SYM-70 has a great motor, bearings, bushings etc. etc. that tend to last at least 50 years longer, or so it seems.
The Kapex is hugely impressive and has many great stand out features, but the SYM-70 has a great motor, bearings, bushings etc. etc. that tend to last at least 50 years longer, or so it seems.
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I picked up a SYM70 last year, a second hand one in near mint condition. I fitted it with a plug it cord which again adds to the already small footprint. I wasn't sure how much I would use it: limited cut capacity, no laser [wink] and neither a bell nor a whistle. I paid less than a third of the price for a new SYM70 and figured I could use it in the shop for occasional small stuff but it has earned its keep on a few occasions on site already.
The simplicity of the saw and the portability is hard to beat. Mine is a keeper for sure.
My Kapex has seen so little use during the time I have had it so I did let it go the other week. Virtually no regrets.
The simplicity of the saw and the portability is hard to beat. Mine is a keeper for sure.
My Kapex has seen so little use during the time I have had it so I did let it go the other week. Virtually no regrets.
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At $1,595 AUD it's kinda hard to digest in Oz ... massively overpriced in this market and would only be purchased by someone with a very unique need dictating it.
It'll be interesting to see how well the Metabo SCMS SYM sells .. to me the format makes a lot of sense.
It'll be interesting to see how well the Metabo SCMS SYM sells .. to me the format makes a lot of sense.
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Kev: yes. At that price point the SYM70 is a no go for me - I would not say it is worth the admission. For what I paid I think I got my moneys worth for sure. A good snag. Even with limited use I find it great to have around. 
The Metabo evolves the concept which is a good thing!
The Metabo evolves the concept which is a good thing!
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The SYM-70 is well worth the asking price, it can't do half what the Kapex does but what it can do I think it does better and it is way more portable as it is so small and light. My SYM-70 gets far more use than the Kapex which I only use for bigger stuff or when I need to use the UG extensions with the stops for the repeatability.
Garry Martin - probably one of the most knowledgeable about Festool on the planet recently saw my SYM-70, he likes it and I think he wants one now...
Garry Martin - probably one of the most knowledgeable about Festool on the planet recently saw my SYM-70, he likes it and I think he wants one now...
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Woodwork Wizard said:
Not meant in a self-deprecating way at all, but I'm nowhere near one of the most knowledgeable about Festool on the planet. Standing on the shoulders of giants has never felt more appropriate. Almost everything I know about Festool was learnt here on the FOG. Sure, I might be able to work the wonders of search better than most, but please don't mistake me for an expert by any stretch of the imagination.
I have learnt so, so much from others on this forum and whilst it pleases me immensely that I'm able to give back to that community, let's keep it realistic eh? [unsure]
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