SYS-AZ Cabinet Question

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I'm planning on buying some SYS-AZ drawers and building a few cabinets designed to fit under my workbench. I'm a bit confused about the cabinet side panel dimensions.

The manual that's available online for the drawers (https://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/706994_002_MonAnl_SYS-AZ_Auszug%20.pdf) shows drilling the first hole 8mm from the bottom of the side panel and every 32mm after that. However, the description on the Festool website (https://www.festoolusa.com/power-tool-accessories/storage-systems/sysport-cart/sys-az-drawer-for-do-it-yourself-sysports-5-pack-500767) says 13mm from the bottom.

Which is correct?

Without going into too much detail, due to the height of my workbench and the casters I'm planning to use, that extra 5mm could mean the difference between being able to use a 20 hole panel or a 19 hole panel. The 19 hole panel would totally mess up how I've organized my cabinets.

Also, since the LR32 end have 9.5mm as the smallest offset, how do you get to 8mm if that's correct? Use 16mm and then trim?

Thanks.
 
Use the 16mm end stops , 16up and out and you'll be fine. Works even better if your panel is a multiple of 32mm then just flip the rail for the rear set of holes.
I followed the instructions that came with the drawers and no problems
 
The Festool manual for the SYS AZ actually says 8mm or greater, so technically, 13mm is fine too, as is 16mm.
 
I just built some AZ cabinets. The reason for the difference in the two measurements are they use different reference points.

The PDF diagram specifies that the first hole needs to be 8MM or more from the bottom panel. The text at the Festool website specifies that you have to allow 13mm under the bottom drawer (not the panel the drawer). The two are essentially the same.

The reason for the spacing requirement can be seen in step 4 of the pdf instructions. The locking mechanism for the bottom drawer get installed in the bottom hole and you have to allow room under the screw hole for the lower part of the black plastic lock. The drawer glides get installed one screw hole higher if you followed the 32mm spacing. Take a close look at step 4 of the instructions and all 4 views shown in that box and it should make sense for you.

 
If I am reading these posts correctly as well as the SYS-AZ Drawing—-
The sides of my cabinet—based on One (1) Sys 4 and three (3) Sys-2’s
Would be 944 mm.  Am I correct?
 
You should also notice from the drawings in the manual that they are drawn assuming that the sides are sitting on top of the bottom with the edge of the bottom visible under the side.  This was not the way I built my cabinet, I had the sides attached to the edges of the bottom.  This affects the offset from the bottom of the side you need.  I ended up using the 32mm offset from the bottom edge of the side.

The drawing and instructions are pretty confusing for the SYS-AZ.  I ended up buying the drawers and cutting a prototype side piece to see how things actually fit and tried both 16 and 32 offsets and work out the hole usage and fit for various systainers.
 
MarvinS said:
If I am reading these posts correctly as well as the SYS-AZ Drawing—-
The sides of my cabinet—based on One (1) Sys 4 and three (3) Sys-2’s
Would be 944 mm.  Am I correct?
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I would go with a multiple of 32 for the height for a couple of reasons:

1.  As Paul mentioned above, if you go with a multiple of 32 it will be easier to reference the holes for the front and back of the panel. 

2.  It’s possible the Systainers you store in the cabinet will change over time so I would not build for a specific Systainer configuration.
 
SoonerFan said:
MarvinS said:
If I am reading these posts correctly as well as the SYS-AZ Drawing—-
The sides of my cabinet—based on One (1) Sys 4 and three (3) Sys-2’s
Would be 944 mm.  Am I correct?
Click to expand...

I would go with a multiple of 32 for the height for a couple of reasons:

1.  As Paul mentioned above, if you go with a multiple of 32 it will be easier to reference the holes for the front and back of the panel. 

2.  It’s possible the Systainers you store in the cabinet will change over time so I would not build for a specific Systainer configuration.
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I've built several of these and agree with the notes above. I constructed mine with the sides sitting on the base not attached to the edges of the base. The weight of the tools in each drawer is transferred to the sides. With the sides sitting on the base the base carries the load. With the sides attached to the edges of the base the glue, screws, dominos what ever you use for attachment carry the load. Weight is probably not an issue but it doesn't hurt to consider it.
 
Thanks for the input. I was basing my height on  a 4 and 3 2’s with no gaps.

So that would call for sides of 960mm and based on my current sys arrangement that would leave approx 5/8” gap between the top sustainer and the top of the cabinet. BUT if I’m understanding that will make it easier to match the front and back rows of holes
 
MarvinS said:
Thanks for the input. I was basing my height on  a 4 and 3 2’s with no gaps.

So that would call for sides of 960mm and based on my current sys arrangement that would leave approx 5/8” gap between the top Systainer and the top of the cabinet. BUT if I’m understanding that will make it easier to match the front and back rows of holes
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If you use 960 and have the LR 32 end stops attached with “16 up and out” (meaning the number 16 on the end stops is facing up and out past the end of the rail, at least on the end the stop that is visible) it will make it easier because:

1.  The guide rail will not move because there will be 30 holes between the end stops equaling exactly 960 mm.

2.  When you drill the holes on the back side of the panel and then turn the rail over to drill the front side, the holes will be aligned between the front and back of the panel
 
It’s making more sense now. Thanks very much. Drawers are enroute and I have the 18mm BB ready to cut to 960.
 
MarvinS said:
It’s making more sense now. Thanks very much. Drawers are enroute and I have the 18mm BB ready to cut to 960.
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Good luck.  Share some pictures when finished.
 
Does anyone have a link to the Sys-AZ manual that works? I tried using the links provided at the top of this post and both are expires. Thanks
 
See if this is what you need.

I double up the hole spacing, shifting so that I have holes every 16mm - gives you more density and flexibility when mixing the different sizes of Systainers.
 

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