SYS Deputy cyclone project

[Chippy85]

Hi, I thought I'd share my cyclone project with you... It is a work in progress.
Basically I just took a Dust Deputy and put it in a SYS 5 and then put another SYS 5 below as a bin.
I need to brace and seal the bin properly and fit a brace for the side ports so it can be abused.
During testing it worked well.
(sealed with duct tape and cross braced internally with some scrap wood) with no leaks up top or on the lid seal.

It is very costly to do this...
2x SYS 5
1x Dust Deputy AS DIY
2m 50mm AS hose
Various Festool hose connectors £££/€€/$$$
Seriously don't start this project without adding up the cost first.

Along with the Dust Deputy the hose also fits in the top for transit.
More pics and a video will follow after the weekend when I get time to work on it more.

Any questions welcome

 

[PreferrablyWood]

This is actually a very fine idea and execution. Something about the look of the stock dust deputy on top of a Festool vac repels me, this is much more balanced and looks efficient too.. Great work!

 

[DB10]

That's an interesting concept you have there, like you have already said the cost of the systainers would be the only down side I could see. I look forward to the video. good luck.

 

[rst]

I wish you luck with your project but I fear that you will be left with collapsed systs.  I have two metal Dust Deputies mounted on steel 40 gallon grease drums. When I turn them on there is a noticable thump as the drum contracts and especially when the suction hose is blocked.

 

[#Tee]

very cool, but for me i really need to see the dust flowing down the cyclone every now and then to see its working up to speed. a quick glance at how fast the dust is flowing tells me if i enough suction, filled bag or just need to adjust the suction power from switching from sanders to saws...plus it just looks cooler lol

 

[Chippy85]

Something about the look of the stock dust deputy on top of a Festool vac repels me

I agree entirely!

I fear that you will be left with collapsed systs.

Yes, I saw The Wood Whisperer's video review of 3 different cyclones and one of them had the bucket collapse and I realised that could be an issue, early testing confirmed this. The back of the systainer got sucked in until it pulled the sealing tape off and leaked air, if the tape was tougher I'm sure in time the box would have collapsed.
The way I see it there are a few solutions, the top and bottom of a SYS are very strong and the corners are re-enforced it's really just the front, back and side panels that are an issue.

Option 1 (easy) Box in a Box: MDF or similar box inside the SYS using the top face to create a seal with more MDF mounted in the lid.

Pros; easy to make, reliable if built well.

Cons; heavier, less capacity, no wet Vac function unless treated/sealed(I am thinking that spray on roofing stuff for example)

Option 2 Ribbing: Ribbing set out to brace the sides internally, various designs and material possibilities
I'm going this way first... but I'm keeping my design under wraps until it's done.

for me i really need to see the dust flowing down the cyclone every now and then

You are quite right! I was only able to reconcile this because the anti static dust deputy is black anyway other wise I may have had a window lol... How cool would a totally transparent SYS look!

Thank you all for you good luck wishes!!
Will post more soon.

 

[Pancha]

So is your project going to be antistatic?  AKA are the connections you are using to mount the cyclone to the systainer antistatic?  The cyclone systainer to the catchment systainer? etc.  I'de love to know your thought process

 

[Got a Truck]

Big aesthetic improvement over the stock Dust Deputy rig, but I still have a hard time wrapping my head around taking a compact vacuum and making it monstrous.

 

[Chippy85]

I still have a hard time wrapping my head around taking a compact vacuum and making it monstrous.

I'd love to know your thought process

The first extractor I chose was the CTM 36 AC.
I wanted this particular one because it had more letters in the name and makes a cool popping sound... Lol

The combo of extra fine filtering (class M) along with Autoclean and my idea that I could use it bag-less with the auto clean function on and have plenty of capacity (36l) was my excuse.

The reality was not so rosey, my Primary trade is Carpenter, I am however a Home Builder and am on site from start till end.
My extractor sees every type of mess imaginable on site. Combining sawdust and plaster dust, for example, will block the filter almost instantly and the AC just can't cope... Game over.
So I started using bags, even the self clean bags struggle, becoming clogged with fine dust and then being useless extracting dust from tools.
Also consider I fill a 36l bag every 2 days during some phases of a build and that gets rather expensive.

When I discovered that Cyclone systems are common in workshops and miniature versions were available I felt like my prayers had been answered.

As far as size, it doesn't really matter, it's for site work... It is actually very handy as a Mini Bench, it currently has a SYS MFT on top and is being used for coping among other things.
The bottom SYS also makes a super handy dust bin!!

The Anti Static side of things came about from a job years ago:- I spent 5 days being afraid of touching my TS55 and Guide Rail because of the massive amount of static I was somehow generating (before I had my Festool Extractor)

I vowed never again so I wanted to make sure my AS was not interrupted by the Cyclone set-up.
The simplistic answer seemed to me to be; Only use AS Festool products to connect to the AS Dust deputy.

The Dust deputy is earthed by contact to the Systainers, I do not know if there is much conductivity with regards the Systainers but that was never my primary concern.