SysPort pricing thoughts---

[Wood_Junkie]

FRANK!!  WHAT THE HECK IS THAT IN YOUR RACK!!??

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[Frank Pellow]

Mr, Junkie, it is what is shown in the photo.  Well spotted!

Festool doesnt sell a mains powered drill, so you can`t fault me about buying a corded hammer drill.

But, you can fault me about my purchase of the Dewalt variety.   [embarassed]

The Dewalt drill had lots of electronics problems and, after reparing it a couple of times, I gave up and purchased a Milwaukee about a year and a half ago.  My Milwaukee hammer drill is great.  Of course, I have changed the photo on the front of the systainer.

 

[VictorL]

Festool doesnt sell a mains powered drill, so you can`t fault me about buying a corded hammer drill.

Protool does make them and you can ask about it here:
http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-wish-list/if-festool-offered-the-______-%28insert-favorite-naina%29-i-would-buy-one-today/

Regards,
VictorL

 

[Sparktrician]

Richard, it is interesting that the one you made cost $300.  The one I made  shown in the attached photos) came in at just under $200.

Nice job on the roll-around, Frank, even considering the sacrelige of the DeWalt label.  

[big grin]

 

[dharmon]

Since I have leftover drawers and slides from my Sysports, can I buy a Sysport without drawers for less money?  I'm not sure what to do with these leftover drawers.

 

[mouppe]

Since I have leftover drawers and slides from my Sysports, can I buy a Sysport without drawers for less money?  I'm not sure what to do with these leftover drawers.

I would think not, but you could perhaps find a buyer by posting them in the classifieds sub-forum?

 

[ccarrolladams]

Until I spent a week in Henderson, NV participating in Festool classes, I had not seen a reason for SysPorts. Back in 2006, after I owned several Festools, I did buy a Systainer cart.

In my shop very few of the Festools I use often are stored in their Systainers. The empty Systainers are stored on upper shelves to keep them out of the way. My own tool accessories are kept in drawers of rolling tool boxes, a mix of factory made mechanics work stations and typical movie-industry wooden rolling boxes.

Where the class opened my mind about the SysPort is the utility of keeping complete sets of Festools and associated accessories together. When one or more is needed for on-site use, they can be lifted from their SysPort shelves.

Over the next few months we will be buying specialized accessory Systainers, such as the kind for papers and the kind for bits. It will be so handy to keep those on Sysport shelves in our main tool supply stock room. When returned from on-site those Systainers can be re-filled.

During the classes it was obvious the time-saving of the SysPorts more than justified the investment.

 

[counterfix]

no matter what you do its costly somtimes the sysports are a better deal unless you got too much time or you can do somthing like this if you got to much money [jawdrop] what i thought was saving money was blowing money these are about 700.00 just raw goods

it can be a fun project but expect to shell out more then if you just bought them from festool [big grin]

 

[tbellemare]

Those are pretty special, Lance.

Tom

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Yeah, those are extreme.  

I'm in the process of building what amounts to four Sysports.  Two wide units which each have two short "towers".  Locking them up was a primary requirement so they'll have foldable front doors, and pull-out drawers inside.

With materials, it's going to come to a little under $300.
That's 3-4 sheets of plywood, 8 casters (HF 4-inch), and 17 sets of drawer slides.
The slides were less than $4 each (they're 18" from CSH) and no drawer pulls.  I'm going to use the dowel method of corraling the Systainers, so the "drawer" is little more than a shelf of 16x18.

I've got about 2 hours into the design and planning.  I figure they'll take me one weekend to make.
The parallel guides are going to get a workout with this project, and the LR32 set is finally going to get some more use.   [smile]

My point is:  as along as you don’t mind using your time, building a Systainer storage cabinet is certainly more cost effective.

 

[GPowers]

Instead of dowels you might want to consider using Dominoes. I placed two on the back of the drawer platform. The Domino fits exactly in the void at the rear corned of the systainer.

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Instead of dowels you might want to consider using Dominoes. I placed two on the back of the drawer platform. The Domino fits exactly in the void at the rear corned of the systainer.

Oh yeah!  I forgot about this option.  What size Domino is ideal to use?  5mm? 

Thanks Greg!

 

[GPowers]

Oh yeah!  I forgot about this option.  What size Domino is ideal to use?  5mm? 
Thanks Greg!

The big one 10 X 24 X 50mm

 

[mouppe]

Yeah, those are extreme.  

I'm in the process of building what amounts to four Sysports.  Two wide units which each have two short "towers".  Locking them up was a primary requirement so they'll have foldable front doors, and pull-out drawers inside.

With materials, it's going to come to a little under $300.
That's 3-4 sheets of plywood, 8 casters (HF 4-inch), and 17 sets of drawer slides.
The slides were less than $4 each (they're 18" from CSH) and no drawer pulls.  I'm going to use the dowel method of corraling the Systainers, so the "drawer" is little more than a shelf of 16x18.

I've got about 2 hours into the design and planning.  I figure they'll take me one weekend to make.
The parallel guides are going to get a workout with this project, and the LR32 set is finally going to get some more use.   [smile]

My point is:  as along as you don’t mind using your time, building a Systainer storage cabinet is certainly more cost effective.

Why 18"? I used the 14" full extension slides on my custom sysports and that allows me to fully open the drawers and keep the lids open at the same time.

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Oh yeah!  I forgot about this option.  What size Domino is ideal to use?  5mm? 
Thanks Greg!

The big one 10 X 24 X 50mm

Errrp… and there’s that excuse I needed to get the 10mm cutter and tenons.  ;-)

 

[GPowers]

Errrp… and there’s that excuse I needed to get the 10mm cutter and tenons.  ;-)

The best deal is the systainer full of dominoes and all the cutters.

That was my fear and why I bought the Domino systainer. I knew I would want to do something and not have the right cuter or dominoes.

 

[Frank Pellow]

Yeah, those are extreme.  

I'm in the process of building what amounts to four Sysports.  Two wide units which each have two short "towers".  Locking them up was a primary requirement so they'll have foldable front doors, and pull-out drawers inside.

With materials, it's going to come to a little under $300.
That's 3-4 sheets of plywood, 8 casters (HF 4-inch), and 17 sets of drawer slides.
The slides were less than $4 each (they're 18" from CSH) and no drawer pulls.  I'm going to use the dowel method of corraling the Systainers, so the "drawer" is little more than a shelf of 16x18.

I've got about 2 hours into the design and planning.  I figure they'll take me one weekend to make.
The parallel guides are going to get a workout with this project, and the LR32 set is finally going to get some more use.   [smile]

My point is:  as along as you don’t mind using your time, building a Systainer storage cabinet is certainly more cost effective.

Why 18"? I used the 14" full extension slides on my custom sysports and that allows me to fully open the drawers and keep the lids open at the same time.

I also used 14" full extension slides on my drawers to hold systainers (I have now built 17 such drawers) and they are perfect for the job.  I would think that 18" would be too long.

 

[Jesse Cloud]

A best practice, that I think I stole from Frank Pellow, in building sysports is to make the drawers deep enough to have room for accessory storage in the back.  For instance, a sander in its systainer and its sandpaper in the back of the drawer.  That has been a huge help for me.  Prolly not useful for folks in the field though.

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Why 18"? I used the 14" full extension slides on my custom sysports and that allows me to fully open the drawers and keep the lids open at the same time.

I also used 14" full extension slides on my drawers to hold systainers (I have now built 17 such drawers) and they are perfect for the job.  I would think that 18" would be too long.

One of my primary requirements is that I’m able to lock it all up, so this involves a door.  I want the door to be out of the way when I’m working, so I need it to stow in some fashion.
I am making a bi-fold door which will span across two Systainer racks.  The doors from each box will lock together via some latching, thus locking up four stacks of Systainers inside.

So, the depth was mostly driven by this requirement.  Since the width of two Systainers, plus slides and carcasse sides comes to just about 36 inches, and I want the bi-fold doors to swing out of the way and “stow” up against the outer side, the depth had to be 18”.

I’ve attached a crude picture of the front and top view that should explain.

Front view:
Two large carcasses, each with two racks inside.  They will be joined to eachother using a panel connector bolt, or some-such.  And they will be further bolted to the wall.

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Top view:
This is the view of one box.  The door will fold and stow against the side.  When closed and locked the door must span 36.25” in order to cover the two racks within that box.
The doors from the Left unit will latch and lock with the doors of the Right unit.  

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Even though I put the boxes on big casters, mobility is not a current concern or desire.  I only went with casters in case I decided to rearrange at some point or move.

 

[GPowers]

It will be fun to see you build pictures.