SysPort workbench (MFT & CMS) + CMS based Router Table

I originally built an MFT knockoff with 8020 about 10 years ago. (Man, has it been that long?) It was cheaper for me because I had access to the material. I still have a workbench I made from the stuff and need to find a way to use it more as it is a good bench. Right now it is a tool collector. I have a problem with horizontal surfaces as I cannot keep myself from piling things on them, but that is just me.

The bores used in the 8020 system to connect extrusions at a right angle can be machined with a router and a template. I have done this and they come out beautiful, but one needs to really understand the force vectors developed and not get too greedy. I believe they are 13/16 diameter but don't take my word for it. Measure one made by the factory before you try machining any yourself. I do also believe you could do them on a drill press with a carbide tipped Forstner bit. I think one can get such an animal from Rockler with a 3/8 shank. They are too long as is and would need to have the shank cut shorter so the tool would be much more rigid before use. You would essentially be turning it into an end cutting end-mill. Either way, patience is a virtue but there is nothing that compares to fabricating the components for yourself in exactly the lengths you need. Even when I did mine with arouter it was more for the kick involved as I have access to plenty of equipment to do it easily, such as a Bridgeport mill.
 
Sgryd,
45x45 Rexroth profiles with 10 mm slots will hold Festool clamps. However, they engage the very edge of the slot and it may get damaged and wear off quickly. You cannot insert the clamp in there by tilting it. Also, in Rexroth profiles T-slot edges are square (which is better), while in 80/20 they are rounded.
 
jonny round boy said:
greg mann said:
I have a problem with horizontal surfaces as I cannot keep myself from piling things on them, but that is just me.

No, it's not just you.  [embarassed]

I include the floor.  Darn gravity prevents me from easily using the ceiling.

Peter
 
i used to be like that until i took down the 24"deep bench all around the shop.
it was handy but the amount of crap it had on it was amazing.
i originally planned to build a series of cabinets under it but the thought of all the crap on top scares me.
removing it  made ht esmall shop so much bigger.
yes i lost 30-40 feet (totalfrom a few walls) of work surface but i could only ever use 10 feet  because i wouls end up moving crap from one bench to the other. it was such a big jobs to tidy it that i didnt bother.
with it all gone i now have to put stuff away because i have nowhere else to put it
 
Peter Halle said:
jonny round boy said:
greg mann said:
I have a problem with horizontal surfaces as I cannot keep myself from piling things on them, but that is just me.

No, it's not just you.  [embarassed]

I include the floor.  Darn gravity prevents me from easily using the ceiling.

Peter

Peter,

Easily solved, when I ran out of horizontal spaces I started screwing seldom used jigs to the rafters...  [embarassed]

RMW
 
Thanks for inspiring me to go into the wonderful world of aluminum extrusions  :)
I stumbled across a free software that makes building with Al extrusions a breeze! Drawings and BOM lists are automatically created!
Can´t recommend it enough, http://www.framexpert.com/

 
Massemannen said:
Thanks for inspiring me to go into the wonderful world of aluminum extrusions  :)
I stumbled across a free software that makes building with Al extrusions a breeze! Drawings and BOM lists are automatically created!
Can´t recommend it enough, http://www.framexpert.com/

Pretty cool - don't like the scary $ value it gives you as you design though ... that stuff isn't cheap. I'm normally against "big box" stores, but I think this is the sort of stuff that would penetrate far better if there was significantly greater volume and lower price.
 
Hear hear...
You´re right about the price. But I made a BOM list and checked the prices from an European supplier and was relieved  when I found out that I could buy it much cheaper than the price given in the software.
 
Matt,
Really like the router table.Is there any particular reason why the hinges holding the Incra fence are fixed to the small uprights and not to the horizontal extrusion.I am considering doing something similar but would like to be able to remove the fence arm from the locking system and produce a flat top.obviously the 2 uprights would stop me having a totally flat top.

Matthew
 
Hi Matt,

could you please post some pictures from the mounted Wixey-stuff on the CMS?
I also own an OF2200 in the Festool-CMS and I want to fix the Wixey-System.

Thank you,
Pierre
 
medicusdkfz said:
could you please post some pictures from the mounted Wixey-stuff on the CMS?

There are a number of quite detailed photos earlier in the thread. Are you asking Matt for something more specific?
 
There are a number of quite detailed photos earlier in the thread. Are you asking Matt for something more specific?

No, I can't see the fixing from the Wixey-system on the lifting mechanism itself...

Thank you, Pierre
 
Hi everyone, I have just taken proud ownership of my first festools - CMS-GE and OF1400 and TS75! I am really interested in this post and appreciate most of the posts have been about the VL but having tried to investigate similar solutions for the GE I have not seen much. However, I was thinking of adapting a plate to connect the Kapex expansion KA-UG V to the Incra LS. I would appreciate any thoughts on this and if anyone has found any workable solutions.

 
Hi Matt,

Amazing work!!  I had a few questions...

What size Incra LS Positioner are you using on the router table, 17" or 25"?  Would you have gone with a different size now than what you originally picked?

With the LS Positioner engaged on the router table, what is your maximum capacity between the drill bit and the fence?

Do you have two CMS-VL units?  Or just one unit and you swap it back and forth between the router table and workbench as needed?

How are the CMS and MFT connected on the workbench?  All your pictures show a fence in the way.  ::)

What rip fence is this?
mattfc said:

Thanks!
Steve
 
Hi Folks,

Ok I'm new to the group. For some reason I can't see any of the images in the above thread. Can anyone shed any light? I expect it's something obvious?!

Thanks in advance...
 
jonnyneedham said:
Hi Folks,

Ok I'm new to the group. For some reason I can't see any of the images in the above thread. Can anyone shed any light? I expect it's something obvious?!

Thanks in advance...

Hi [member=63290]jonnyneedham[/member] and welcome to the FOG!

Unfortunately there was a catastrophic failure of the forum some time ago that meant we lost all photos from a particular time period and this is obviously one of those threads.

Was there anything in particular you were wondering or wanted to see?

I *think* these may be some of the images that I have saved locally...

 

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