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[batmanimal]

I admire your commitment to honesty Peter - but there’s  nothing real about a contributor who joins the forum to place his one and only post because he’s the CEO of the company he’s advertising. You’d think that someone in his position would at least have a basic grasp of when to use capital letters.

I don’t mind hearing from businesses in this forum. Whether it’s their first post or 1000th, as long as it’s not spam, and they are transparent about their interests, I don’t see a problem? In this case, the CEO did not start this thread but was responding to the conversation, which seems like “fair game” to me. Just my two cents.

I also don’t mind capitalization errors. We are all human.

 

[squall_line]

Ya, the SYS3’s aren’t too bad.
What I find wrong, very wrong is that Festool didnt stand up for the established heights.
If Tanos and others wanted different heights, that be it, even Festool if they needed just that height on a couple of tools or accessories.
Less wrong, but still wrong (on the SYS’ that DONT have a functional handle up front), is the locking top handle. It’s annoying that you have to smack it down hard to get another systainer on top of it. Therefore they could have left the handle fall towards the back.. again; for Bott vehicle racking. Mine’s are soon seeing a file.. very close and rubbing [big grin]

But, the 3 series is more substantial. The handle up front (even the “non functional” one) gives a point to grab even on the floor, in a regular shelf and so on, compared to the old T-Lock.

For me, it's the front handle on the shorter units that doesn't latch when they're connected to a unit below them, which then flops and bangs around.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

a new rail mounting system compatible with 19” computer equipment.

Yes that would be very nice…it would then also work with the stereo gear racking that was popular in the 70’s & 80’s. Imagine this…an HL 850 mounted directly over a Crown DC 300A amplifier.

Noice…

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] Back in the late 1970’s, and just after I started my career, I got hired by a local sound equipment rental company to build a bunch of timber 19” racks for high-cost outboard equipment which would subsequently sit inside a foam-lined flightcase out front next to the mixing console. They had racks and racks of DC300A’s (many of them branded ‘Amcron’ as I recall) stacked around 8-high in flightcases with huge fans at the back to keep them cool.  Legend had it that you could perform minor arc-welds using the speaker terminals - and this feat was only matched when Krell released their first KSA50 for high-end home audio. The company (SSE) still exist, they’re now huge. I’m told that these days, most companies use Lab Gruppen amplifiers, some of which are only 3u high and will put out 5kw per channel into 4 ohms  [eek]

 

[mino]

Ya, the SYS3’s aren’t too bad.
What I find wrong, very wrong is that Festool didn’t stand up for the established heights.
If Tanos and others wanted different heights, that be it, even Festool if they needed just that height on a couple of tools or accessories.
Less wrong, but still wrong (on the SYS’ that DONT have a functional handle up front), is the locking top handle. It’s annoying that you have to smack it down hard to get another systainer on top of it. Therefore they could have left the handle fall towards the back.. again; for Bott vehicle racking. Mine’s are soon seeing a file.. very close and rubbing [big grin]

But, the 3 series is more substantial. The handle up front (even the “non functional” one) gives a point to grab even on the floor, in a regular shelf and so on, compared to the old T-Lock.

For me, it's the front handle on the shorter units that doesn't latch when they're connected to a unit below them, which then flops and bangs around.

Yes, then handles are annoying. But they are one-ripout or one-file away. So not a show stopper.

Once cannot fix the broken heights however.

As in, due to the heights in I am currently in a position that "I WOULD NOT USE SYS3's EVEN PROVIDED FOR FREE". The cost of breaking the way how I use them makes them effectively a net negative value.

Sure, easy for me to say as I have a source of T-Locs from TANOS for years to come. But still. If I did not have them I would just switch to something else.

 

[Cheese]

[member=44099]Cheese[/member] Back in the late 1970’s, and just after I started my career, I got hired by a local sound equipment rental company to build a bunch of timber 19” racks for high-cost outboard equipment which would subsequently sit inside a foam-lined flightcase out front next to the mixing console. They had racks and racks of DC300A’s (many of them branded ‘Amcron’ as I recall) stacked around 8-high in flightcases with huge fans at the back to keep them cool.  Legend had it that you could perform minor arc-welds using the speaker terminals - and this feat was only matched when Krell released their first KSA50 for high-end home audio. The company (SSE) still exist, they’re now huge. I’m told that these days, most companies use Lab Gruppen amplifiers, some of which are only 3u high and will put out 5kw per channel into 4 ohms  [eek]

You are correct... [smile]...Amcron was the name put on product destined for the UK, Euro & Oz. I remember seeing audio articles on people welding with a DC 300 A "just because they could". They were really bomb proof units. Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin used Crown amps while The Grateful Dead preferred McIntosh.

Here's a photo of the Grateful Dead "Wall of Sound" featuring JBL D130 speakers and 28,800 watts of McIntosh amplification.

Now back to the regular programming... [big grin]

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