"The Art & Science of The Jointmaker Pro"

A few questions:

1 - can you walk through the process for cutting a tenon  - particularly how the wood is held vertically, square, etc?
2 - John shows a  "toothed joint" on the site / video.  How is he indexing for cutting the teeth?  Simple shims removed?
3 - related to above - what about an incra track that could allow shifting the cut by a consistent amount across a board, like when making a jewelry tray divider?
4 - Walk through the adjustable stops on the angle adjustment - which are fixed, which are adjustable?
5 - What is depth of cut at 45 degrees?
6 - What is the preferred method for setting angles with the fence?  Blade tilt has a scale.  But i don't recall seeing a miter angle.
7 - how long to change a blade?
8 - Can you give us a smoothness readout when you cut both soft woods like pine or basswood and hardwoods like Ipe or hard maple?
9 - repeatability - iike cutting a 1/4 inch groove in a 3/4 piece repeated on both ends for splined miters times several pieces - how to set up for consistency?
10 - what is the saw drag and number of strokes when cutting a 5 inch wide piece that may be 3/4 thick?
11 - setting depth of cut - as in wanting to cut a dovetail to a scribeed line

A few joint / cut ideas:
- splined miter
- half lap miter
- half lap joint
- constructing a 4 x 4 jewelry box divider with 4 or so dividers equally spaced
- 1/8 dados across 1/4 x 3/4 stock
- repeatable length cuts as in making matching sides of a picture frame
- compound miter cuts, as in a six sided cut with a 25 degree angle up to make a base to a turned vase

I'm sure you have many more, but these were a few ideas.

Have a good trip and take lots of photos / videos as possible.

neil
 
Per.......

I think I have the case John is talking about.

It's a Pelican......http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1630

It's the Papa Bear to the systainer, I've used it a lot when I had jobs out of town and I needed

to pack a select set of tools for the flight. Photographers use them a lot, built in wheels, foam inserts,

Retractable extension handle ........... the list goes on. 

I was planning on using it to take misc. materials up to Portland, ...........hmmm.

..............
Monte

looks like this............
 
Hmmmm. Monte, Hmmmm,

Its, 300 dollars.

I am a humble finish carpenter in a bad economy.

Just how well does cutting small stuff pay?

Which is why we are counting on you to tell us about the viability

of the Jointmaker for the vast spectrum of FOG potential purchasers.

Per

 
Per Swenson said:
Hmmmm. Monte, Hmmmm,

Its, 300 dollars.

I am a humble finish carpenter in a bad economy.

Just how well does cutting small stuff pay?

Which is why we are counting on you to tell us about the viability

of the Jointmaker for the vast spectrum of FOG potential purchasers.

Per

Per......

Yes the Pelican is sexy, but if your not transporting the JMP on a plane

I would think a 3/4" plywood box made up with your domino or pocket screws,

Dado in a couple of slots, slide in a top,

a couple of wheels & a handle,

when you get to the jobsite, turn it over........

presto, you have a base.

(don't forget the knee pads)  ;D

......as to the viability factor, you bet I will.

..............
Monte
 
Per Swenson said:
Good for you,

I just love when people use their real names.

Per

thank you Per........

In the spirit of full disclosure  (in regards to my work)  it was only the next logical step.

Roger  aka monte

 
Roger,
It's up to you, but you might want to just use your name "Roger Savatteri."  Remember, once you change your user name, all your previous posts are updated to show the new name, so there's no longer a reason to add "aka Monte."
Matthew
 
Matthew Schenker said:
Roger,
It's up to you, but you might want to just use your name "Roger Savatteri."  Remember, once you change your user name, all your previous posts are updated to show the new name, so there's no longer a reason to add "aka Monte."
Matthew

If someone popped in and didn't realize he changed his name, it might be confusing though. Maybe the transition would be OK for awhile.
 
Per Swenson said:
Good for you,

I just love when people use their real names.

Per

Heard an interview on Fresh Air last week with Suze Rotolo. She was Bob Dylan's first girlfriend in NYC and is pictured walking with him on the cover of his album The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan. She has written a book, A Freewheelin' Time: A Memoir of Greenwich Village in the Sixties.

She said they had been living together for several months when Dylan came home a little drunk and while changing his clothes his wallet fell on the floor and Robert Zimmerman's draft card fell out. "Is that you?"

"What's in your wallet?"
 
JJEconomaki said:
Hi Folks-

We are looking forward to meeting Monte. Some of the questions on this machine posed so far can be answered by visiting;
http://www.bridgecitytools.com/Products/What's+New/Jointmaker+Pro

The tool arrives broken down.

We purchased a case for $289 for an assembled Jointmaker Pro that I haul around for dog and pony shows--I will ask Michael to post a FYI link--it is waterproof and appears to be indestructible (unless shipped by UPS...) 

If you think it is important to learn how to assemble the tool, we can have Monte put one together from scratch if you would like.  (We will have online videos for such purpose down the road). It probably is a good idea--takes about two hours and we think it is fun.

Blades are designed to be replaced as opposed to be sharpened. With precision linear motion control, a hand sharpened blade will only cut as smooth as the most whacked out tooth--we don't believe there are many with the necessary sharpening skills, even if the teeth are stoned (eyesight is also an issue, 32 TPI is really small), one is certainly able to try however.  We project replacement blades to be under $20 with TODAYS DOLLAR... They are the only component that is not American made.

Yes, there is an adjustable stop for repeatable depth of cuts in multiple pieces of wood. The tables are orange for a reason--in the video where we change the fence settings for the dovetail pins, we are aligning the fence to previously scribed pencil lines on the tops. All of the wooden fences are sacrificial, just like on a table saw sled. This is also how we get back to 90 degrees quickly. A reference line that is 20" long is damn accurate. One can always use a square too.

Lastly, there are only two adjustments prior to first cut--or if things get out of whack. The saw blade has to be adjusted parallel to table travel and the Nylatron ways have to be snugged to remove table slop--this surprisingly takes less than a couple of minutes for both. The keel can only get out of whack by some unforeseen significant force--car wreck, meteor, Wives Against Chris Schwarz...you get the idea. The Nylatron ways need to be adjusted over time--it's easy. In addition, this material appears to be slightly hygroscopic--I had a lengthy session on a Saturday, came in Sunday (it was raining) and my tables were snug--it took a couple of minutes to get them working like the puck on an air hockey table. We lube them with Teflon. They are designed to "give way" if somebody tries to do something outside of the scope of the tool--like try to crosscut a 16' plank of hardrock maple after losing a match on American Gladiators...

Have a great holiday weekend FOG members.

-John Economaki

PS: Not to be picky, but it is the Jointmaker Pro, not Jointmaster--and yes, there is a '60's joke in there somewhere...

I told 'ya! Gotta get that Vespel.

Let's see, at McMaster.com

87405K23
Polyimide (Vespel) Rod 1/2" Diameter
In stock at $36.24 per In.

"The sliding table stroke distance is 16" and the maximum crosscut width is 6 inches and table over travel is buffered by rubber bumpers fore and aft."

Each table slides on two rails so if the rails were topped with Vespel that would require 16" X 4 = 64" of Vespel at $36.24 per inch = $2319.36.

Hmmmm....Nylatron might work!

Just kidding. Besides, Vespel is hygroscopic too. As far as I can tell the rails are aluminum milled to form a long male dovetail so only small amount of Nylatron (or Vespel) is required to function as a gliding bearing.

Can't wait to see some hi-rez pictures of this thing.

Maybe there is something on TV...
 
hi .......

Just letting everyone know that I'll start posting by this weekend.

(I just got back at midnight last night)

I had a wonderfully, inspired and informative trip, with a lot to share.

all the best,

Roger
 
Monte,
You're got a nice fan base!  We're all eager to hear how it went.
If you need any help putting together photos, let me know.
Matthew
 
To Everyone at FOG.....

Posting will commence sometime later today.

I am working out some technical issues with Matt,

It has to do with the way I would like to display the review.

thank you for your patience.

Roger
 
Looks like a very thorough review coming our way, thanks in advance for your efforts.
 
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