The Slide is over, for a while.

[Amateur]

Hi everyone.
Here's my story. The trim around my garage is starting to rot @ ground level. So I decided to replace all the trim w/Azek. I am not a carpenter, but I know how to pound a nail, screw a screw and saw a board. So in December 06, I stopped @ a woodworking dealer who sells Jet table saws, to inquire about an inexpensive belt drive table saw. He helped me pick out a saw for about $270.00. As I was leaving his shop, Jim said "you know". He explained the system, and portability of Festool. Did I mention my favorite color is GREEN?
Well Jim gave me a DVD on the TS55 and a CATALOG. It is now April and I have acquired a TS55, CT22, MFT 800, PS300, C12 and finally a OF1010. It is starting to get warmer outside, so let the projects begin.
I want to thank everyone on FOG for their comments and reviews, they were a big help on deciding which tools would be best for my future needs.
Thank you,
Amateur

 

[Toolpig]

You will LOVE the Azek!

Oh yeah, and the funny-looking little green tools, too.  ;D

TP

Hi everyone.
Here's my story. The trim around my garage is starting to rot @ ground level. So I decided to replace all the trim w/Azek. I am not a carpenter, but I know how to pound a nail, screw a screw and saw a board. So in December 06, I stopped @ a woodworking dealer who sells Jet table saws, to inquire about an inexpensive belt drive table saw. He helped me pick out a saw for about $270.00. As I was leaving his shop, Jim said "you know". He explained the system, and portability of Festool. Did I mention my favorite color is GREEN?
Well Jim gave me a DVD on the TS55 and a CATALOG. It is now April and I have acquired a TS55, CT22, MFT 800, PS300, C12 and finally a OF1010. It is starting to get warmer outside, so let the projects begin.
I want to thank everyone on FOG for their comments and reviews, they were a big help on deciding which tools would be best for my future needs.
Thank you,
Amateur

 

[mot]

I just started the slide.  Is there a medication for it?  I ordered a Domino and starter kit with the two guides.  Before it's even arrived, I bought an MFT 1080 and a TS 55.  I feel dizzy.

 

[Dave Rudy]

The only cure for feeling dizzy like that is to make two or three immediate purchases, preferably before the stuff you've already ordered even arrives.  Fortunately, Festool makes enough stuff to keep you going for a while.

When the lightness in your wallet exceeds the lightness in your head, it's time to stop for a few days, a week at most.  Then start up again to stop the trembling.



Dave

 

[Dan Clark]

As Dave said, unfortunately there is no cure.  Fortunately the FOG Support Group is here to help.  You are among friends.  We understand those "needs" (deep voice) and hidden desires!  Share with us.  You'll feel better. 

Also, we have a "step" program like other support groups.  Of course, ours has 4,937 steps:

Step 1 - Admit your addiction!  Say out loud, "I am a Festoolaholic!"  Go on, say it!!!  There, don't you feel a bit better?!?

Steps 2 through 4,936 - buy more Festools.

Step 4,937 - I'm still workin' on this one. 

Wecome aboard brother!  (Or is it sister?)  ;D

Go in peace,

Dan.

 

[Mark]

I have to admit that putting my sandpaper into systainers seemed a bit much, but schlepping all those boxes in plastic grocery bags was getting old. I got a couple of systainers to hold paper for my RO150, ES125 and DS400 and it all makes total sense. The one accessory that I think would be good would be a sysport that was more like a hand truck. Using the vac to move systainers only works if the ground is level. Having a "systruck" would be good for people working from site to site and you could roll the stack a lot faster with less jarring if the tires were pneumatic.... I guess I could just get a hand truck with some webbing straps.

 

[mastercabman]

I have to admit that putting my sandpaper into systainers seemed a bit much, but schlepping all those boxes in plastic grocery bags was getting old. I got a couple of systainers to hold paper for my RO150, ES125 and DS400 and it all makes total sense. The one accessory that I think would be good would be a sysport that was more like a hand truck. Using the vac to move systainers only works if the ground is level. Having a "systruck" would be good for people working from site to site and you could roll the stack a lot faster with less jarring if the tires were pneumatic....

I guess I could just get a hand truck with some webbing straps.

that's what i'm going to do.i work on site all the time.the hand truck is a great idea.

 

[Mark]

This may or may not be such a great idea. Rather than having to carry a handtruck, maybe a "Sysdolly" that clipped to the base systainer and then using the stack of systainers clipped together you could use handle of the top systainer as your handtruck handle. In many ways all you need are some 6" pneumatic wheels clipped to the bottom most and heaviest systainer (TS55/75). Maybe a modified CT22 with larger pneumatic wheels would do the trick. The current casters on the vacs really only work well on smooth surfaces. On a construction site, this might not be the case but then Festools are not often, well yet, seen used in the construction scenario. Next I'll think of the SysPack where you are able to carry a rack of systainers up a ladder on your back!!! OK enough nonsense for now.

 

[jimg]

I use a Systainer cart #492 388 to move most of the tools around the jobsite. I find that, combined with a few systainers on top of the CT22, works pretty well in most situations, although it's not great over gravel or if the ground is uneven.

They do make a folding handtruck that is sold in Europe for systainers, but it is not very heavy duty (55lbs max I think). I would be interested in a folding hd handtruck if it was available.

 

[Les]

Has anyone heard from Ned Young? He's our Systainer expert.

 

[Trumpet]

Mark Enomoto,

I tried pallet trucks of various types - two problems i) ease of mounting and dismouting systainers and making sure they remain held and ii) getting the weight / capacity right. The folding type (well the ones I tired) just felt too flimsy and the rigid ones are too damn heavy once you have a small stack of systainers to boot. The pallet track can also foul the lid of the top systainer preventing it from being opened without dismounting - I primarily wanted a portable stack with the top systainer for various tools and two sortainers underneath.

In the end I went for a home brew set of wheels bolted through the bottom of a systainer. I used 10mm threaded bar (all the way from one side to the other) and drilled through the centres of the front and rear vertical pillar type moulding on each corner - checking the clearance for the wheels both with the base flat and also with it tilted (as you tilt over you need to make sure the rear edge is not too near the ground). Nuts/washers against each face of the systainer plastic (inside and out, including the inner profile of those pillars) aid rigidity but I bolstered this by using epoxy putty (Milliput in the UK) jammed into those pillar mouldings. Once set I tightened up the bolts real tight and the whole wheel assembly seems solid as a rock - no flex and no signs of stress on the plastic. The individual wheels are held on with nylock nuts and obviously don't swivel - happy about this as I don;t want the stack wadnering off down hills, just need to remember to park the thing parallel to any slope. The wheels are solid rubber, no reason why larger / pneumatic ones couldn't be used. I was going to go for two wheels and a ledge on the front, glad I didn't as in many situations just pushing the ting around is more convenient than tilting over and pulling/pushing.

Once I'd tried pulling the stack around I wasn't convinced that the systainer clips were really designed for large torsional stresses - one clip not fully latched is likely to spring the others loose. I made some simple straps - 25mm webbing and buckles that wrap around each systainer holding the clips firmly in place. I think this assembly could manage 80-100kg, would wantit that heavy though!

The only addition I might make is fix a curved / padded handle at the back - similar to the design on some of the hand carts. The pivoting systainer handle isn't ideal as it puts a little more weight on the hand/wrist whilst the stack is tilted. I may try some larger wheels at some point too - an easy changeover  with just four bolts, if you are going to try this make sure you don;t cut the threaded bar too short to give you more flexibility for mounting thicker wheels.

   

 

[woodshopdemos]

Hi everyone.
Here's my story. The trim around my garage is starting to rot @ ground level. So I decided to replace all the trim w/Azek. I am not a carpenter, but I know how to pound a nail, screw a screw and saw a board. So in December 06, I stopped @ a woodworking dealer who sells Jet table saws, to inquire about an inexpensive belt drive table saw. He helped me pick out a saw for about $270.00. As I was leaving his shop, Jim said "you know". He explained the system, and portability of Festool. Did I mention my favorite color is GREEN?
Well Jim gave me a DVD on the TS55 and a CATALOG. It is now April and I have acquired a TS55, CT22, MFT 800, PS300, C12 and finally a OF1010. It is starting to get warmer outside, so let the projects begin.
I want to thank everyone on FOG for their comments and reviews, they were a big help on deciding which tools would be best for my future needs.
Thank you,
Amateur

Nice story...only one problem, you will not be able to use your name "amateur" much longer. You are better equipped than many of the "pros". Enjoy, safely.