ts55 req recall -festool- hassle!!!

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mattdh

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was just posting this hoping to get the attention of someone at festool.  i have made 5 phone calls to the  recall line and 1 returned call  from the recall line (total of 6) since wensday and still no return info or prepaid label emailed to me. i dont know if festool subbed this recall stuff out to someone but this doesnt seem like the typical festool service i keep hearing about. help please?

*** and for anyone else reading this post- just to let you know be careful. i was using my 55req and didnt realize it didnt retrack after a cut i had made and set the saw down  and it made about a pretty nasty 6" gash in a customers carpet that i have to have repaired now (hoping it can be repaired)!****
 
mattdh said:
was just posting this hoping to get the attention of someone at festool.  i have made 5 phone calls to the  recall line and 1 returned call  from the recall line (total of 6) since wensday and still no return info or prepaid label emailed to me. i dont know if festool subbed this recall stuff out to someone but this doesnt seem like the typical festool service i keep hearing about. help please?

*** and for anyone else reading this post- just to let you know be careful. i was using my 55req and didnt realize it didnt retrack after a cut i had made and set the saw down  and it made about a pretty nasty 6" gash in a customers carpet that i have to have repaired now (hoping it can be repaired)!****

I have a different problem, I sent mine back for repair and the UPS tracking said Festool received it this past Monday.  I called to make sure it was received OK and they told me they did not have a record of receiving it and that they might not have entered it yet and they would call me back.  Still nothing,  I am a hobbyist and love my Festool, but am really wishing I kept my old TS55 and never bought the REQ.  Now I am worried they will tell me they have no record of receiving my saw.  Fortunately I have a tracking number that says they received it, plus photos of the box, saw, systainer and serial number label.  They have always been polite, I just feel like they are a little disorganized with this particular recall.
 
That's what you get when you're an early adopter.

I really can't understand all these people who want to be the first to have a new toy. It happens so often that a new product needs a recall or revision, better to stand back a while and see how it develops.
 
Alex said:
That's what you get when you're an early adopter.

I really can't understand all these people who want to be the first to have a new toy. It happens so often that a new product needs a recall or revision, better to stand back a while and see how it develops.

Agree.

Shame is this should have been an improvement - no something significantly new.

This will certainly be a test of Festool's product release management
 
To those who posted about customer service issues, I know that this last week was an unusual week at Festool.  I would expect that your situations will be addressed next week.  I assure you that nobody who works for Festool takes customer service lightly.

Peter
 
Alex said:
That's what you get when you're an early adopter.

I really can't understand all these people who want to be the first to have a new toy. It happens so often that a new product needs a recall or revision, better to stand back a while and see how it develops.

Glad you know why I bought the tool.  It had some enhacements I liked and so I bought it expecting the same high quality product I usually get from Festool.  Had nothing to do with being the first.  I really can't understand why people have to post such snotty responses like yours.  If you had posted a note sharing your frustrations, I would not have belittled you.
 
There are some frustrations out there.  Please let's stay civil or don't post.

Peter
 
Debug said:
Alex said:
That's what you get when you're an early adopter.

I really can't understand all these people who want to be the first to have a new toy. It happens so often that a new product needs a recall or revision, better to stand back a while and see how it develops.

Glad you know why I bought the tool.  It had some enhacements I liked and so I bought it expecting the same high quality product I usually get from Festool.  Had nothing to do with being the first.  I really can't understand why people have to post such snotty responses like yours.  If you had posted a note sharing your frustrations, I would not have belittled you.

this is not the first time a new release has fallen flat. i also went against this good advice and regret it.
 
I bought the Kapex when it first came out and while there were a few issues with it, and some things I think should've been changed, I don't regret that decision.  I think that Festool has a track record of introducing top of line, often revolutionary tools, without a hitch.  That wasn't the case this time and I can certainly understand the frustration.  With that said if they came out with something new that I felt I needed I wouldn't hesitate.  It's obvious that Festool spends a lot on R&D and the aphorism that's been tossed around in this thread isn't one that applies for me with this company.  Best of luck getting your issue resolved.
 
duburban said:
Debug said:
Alex said:
That's what you get when you're an early adopter.

I really can't understand all these people who want to be the first to have a new toy. It happens so often that a new product needs a recall or revision, better to stand back a while and see how it develops.

Glad you know why I bought the tool.  It had some enhacements I liked and so I bought it expecting the same high quality product I usually get from Festool.  Had nothing to do with being the first.  I really can't understand why people have to post such snotty responses like yours.  If you had posted a note sharing your frustrations, I would not have belittled you.

this is not the first time a new release has fallen flat. i also went against this good advice and regret it.

Same here...unfortunately I also sold my ps300 in order to preorder the carvex. I don't even have the carvex in my hand and want it back.
 
Peter Halle said:
To those who posted about customer service issues, I know that this last week was an unusual week at Festool.  I would expect that your situations will be addressed next week.  I assure you that nobody who works for Festool takes customer service lightly.

Peter

I can attest to this as I visited Festool this past week. Minnie said almost everyone was in Vegas; business, not pleasure.
 
Debug said:
Alex said:
That's what you get when you're an early adopter.

I really can't understand all these people who want to be the first to have a new toy. It happens so often that a new product needs a recall or revision, better to stand back a while and see how it develops.

Glad you know why I bought the tool.  It had some enhacements I liked and so I bought it expecting the same high quality product I usually get from Festool.  Had nothing to do with being the first.  I really can't understand why people have to post such snotty responses like yours.  If you had posted a note sharing your frustrations, I would not have belittled you.

That's because I'm a snotty person.  [wink] I meant to give a general warning, and by no means was it my intention to offend you. I don't think I actually adressed you. But my apologies if you took it that way.

On the other hand, I see too many people here jump up and down in their seat out of excitement, 3 months before a new tool is released.
 
Alex said:
That's what you get when you're an early adopter.

I really can't understand all these people who want to be the first to have a new toy. It happens so often that a new product needs a recall or revision, better to stand back a while and see how it develops.
I was under the impression that the TS55REQ had been on the market in Europe for quite a long time before they started selling it in the United States.  So I didn't consider myself an early adopter.

I'm hanging on to mine until I get an official recall notice or they find a solution, whichever comes first.
 
Jeff R said:
Alex said:
That's what you get when you're an early adopter.

I really can't understand all these people who want to be the first to have a new toy. It happens so often that a new product needs a recall or revision, better to stand back a while and see how it develops.
I was under the impression that the TS55REQ had been on the market in Europe for quite a long time before they started selling it in the United States.  So I didn't consider myself an early adopter.

I'm hanging on to mine until I get an official recall notice or they find a solution, whichever comes first.

Hi Jeff,

Welcome to the FOG!  [smile]

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My suggestion for those with TS55REQ questions is to call Festool this coming week.

And to  refer to these threads for the currently available information. 

http://festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/recall-on-55req-27279/

http://festoolownersgroup.com/ask-festool/ts-55-req-recall-fact-or-fiction/

Seth
 
mattdh said:
*** and for anyone else reading this post- just to let you know be careful. i was using my 55req and didnt realize it didnt retrack after a cut i had made and set the saw down  and it made about a pretty nasty 6" gash in a customers carpet that i have to have repaired now (hoping it can be repaired)!****

the blade not retracting (or not un-plunging?) is the reason for the recall
 
Birdhunter said:
What problem triggered the recall?

As stupid as this sounds, government regulations prevent anyone from answering this question under SubParagraph 15(i) of the Consumer Product Protection Act (15 U.S.C. §§ 2051−2089). I am not an attorney, but that is my personal interpretation of the law. Information will come forward as soon as possible, but the law prevents it from happening before the law permits it from happening. I may be wrong about which paragraph of law covers this, but nevertheless, that is why you won't hear any answers to your questions.

Be patient and the information will be forthcoming as set forth by Federal Law. It is not that no one wants to answer your question. It is because they cannot legally answer your question.
 
Lee Valley's website states quite clearly that:-

"Festool has advised all dealers to stop selling and to return all existing stock of the TS 55 REQ Plunge Cut Circular Saw due to a potential performance issue. In cooperation with Health Canada and the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, Festool intends to recall this product due to a potential problem with the plunge mechanism. If you have a TS 55 REQ Plunge Cut Circular Saw, please discontinue use immediately and contact Festool directly at 1-855-784-9727 (toll-free) for further information about your options."

I pre-ordered my TS55 REQ ahead of the launch date and sold my perfectly good TS55 before that! Oh well. I haven't sent it back yet but I'm not using it at the moment. A refund or the TS75 is of no interest to me.

What I find confusing is why the saw is considered safe in Europe, was on sale for a long time before arriving in North America and suddenly faces a regional recall? Was the saw modified in some way for North America? Similarly the issues with the Midi and RAS 115 in Canada and not the US seem to be administrative-related, not safety-related which I have less sympathy with than for a safety issue such as the plunge mechanism on the saw.

I hope it all gets sorted out sooner rather than later.

 
Rick Christopherson said:
Birdhunter said:
What problem triggered the recall?

As stupid as this sounds, government regulations prevent anyone from answering this question under SubParagraph 15(i) of the Consumer Product Protection Act (15 U.S.C. §§ 2051−2089). I am not an attorney, but that is my personal interpretation of the law. Information will come forward as soon as possible, but the law prevents it from happening before the law permits it from happening. I may be wrong about which paragraph of law covers this, but nevertheless, that is why you won't hear any answers to your questions.

Be patient and the information will be forthcoming as set forth by Federal Law. It is not that no one wants to answer your question. It is because they cannot legally answer your question.

Rick is spot on.

Unfortunately.

 
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