Ts55r shocks from tool and guide rail

[Captain caberdwck]

I have been getting some pretty nasty static shocks from my ts55r when ripping boards currently been sent back to festool I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem

 

[Rick Christopherson]

It's a double-insulated tool. This means there is no chassis ground on the tool. The static you are getting is from your workshop, not the saw. If you are using an anti-static vac hose, this will be grounded, and should pull the static away.

 

[Corwin]

In addition to what Rick has posted, your extractor must also be plugged into a grounded outlet.

 

[Captain caberdwck]

When I'm using the saw its on site on plastic stools with a plywood sheet on top I don't use a workshop  but the shocks are quite strong you can see blue flashes from the saw on the rail also arcing to fingers under the trigger. I wasn't really happy to be told to buy a ctl extractor at £300 with a anti static hose as I already have a good extractor I feel this should have been mentioned when buying the saw.

 

[Captain caberdwck]

Thanks for the reply guys looks like Im going to have to fork out for a new extractor now

 

[Rick Christopherson]

(Oops, I type too slow. You posted a minute ago.) It's not the saw that's the problem. It's your set-up and your vac. You are isolating everything from earth ground, especially with your plastic stools.

Edit to add: The reason why you want a vac with an anti-static hose is because moving air and dust through the hose will create static. You'll notice this by just holding your vac hose while you clean up the work area.

 

[Alan m]

im not sure its just static, iv often used my ts55 with no extraction .
what are you cutting. i often use my walko workbench for cutting up sheets and i doubt its made to be conductive so it should be insulating everything like your plastic tressils.

 

[Tinker]

Thanks for the reply guys looks like Im going to have to fork out for a new extractor now

You do realize, don't you, that you are on avery slippery slope.
You also need to get yourself a pair of shoes with anti-static protection.
Either that, or get everything in the catalogue  :
Tinker

 

[Captain caberdwck]

I've been cutting beech veneered mdf sheets. The guy from the saw centre I got it from said he doesn't think it should be happening either and he knows a lot more about them than I do so will just need to wait and see what happens when I hear back from festool. Ps the saw cuts that good I almost don't mind the shocks

 

[Corwin]

Are/were you working in a rather dry environment when you experienced these shocks?  You might not have this issue if there is enough moisture in the air, even with your current [tongue] setup.  

You might consider getting an antistatic hose and finding a way to connect it to ground at your vac...

 

[Deansocial]

I highly doubt its static. I often use my ts75 without and antistatic hose. There is massive static build up on the hose. I too use plastic saw horses. I have never had a shock from my too in the last 6 years of using it in a proffesional capacity

 

[Captain caberdwck]

Hahaha corwin I don't think I've ever heard Scotland and dry environment in the same sentence lol seriously though I work on sites indoor I wouldn't say there particularly dry environments . Definetly think there is a machine fault never had this problem from any other machines I've used with or without extraction

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Definetly think there is a machine fault never had this problem from any other machines I've used with or without extraction

Well, if you are wearing shoes at the time this happens, then it is not an electrical shock. You need to be grounded for an electrical shock, but a static shock will happen even when you are not. Is any part of your body touching a grounded surface or object?

 

[peter halle]

I don't know if this will help:

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but you seem to have a sense of humor and I thought that I would try.

Let us know if they discover anything.  Otherwise welcome to the slippery slope and the avenue towards perfection and an empty wallet.  [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

 

[MrToolJunkie]

I don't know if this will help:

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but you seem to have a sense of humor and I thought that I would try.

Let us know if they discover anything.  Otherwise welcome to the slippery slope and the avenue towards perfection and an empty wallet.   [thumbs up] [thumbs up]

Peter,

I certainly got a chuckle...love it.  [big grin]

Scot

 

[Corwin]

I do not think you are getting an electrical shock from your saw.  And you won't get a static shock from it either.  But you can get a static shock whenever you connect dust extraction to your tools.  This is especially true if you are in a dry environment.  I too live in an area that I wouldn't consider dry (actually the Northwest is well know for its rain) yet whenever the humidity falls much below 50% I can have an issue when the antistatic connection is incomplete.

Case in point;  I have a corded electric drill that has never shocked me in use UNTIL I used it with my Kreg pocket hole jig AND hooked up a vac line.  Same blue arcing and getting zapped at the trigger finger.  So, not the tool that was creating the problem, but rather the dust extraction without any antistatic connection.

I also had an issue with static shocks when I first installed a new cyclone inline -- the cyclone disrupted the (antistatic) circuit.  Some here have had similar experiences with static shock when their system had an incomplete antistatic circuit, but not everyone.  The reason some experience this and some do not is their environment -- their humidity levels.

 

[Captain caberdwck]

Thanks for all the replies guys especially peters hat I'll need to incorporate it into a hard hat lol I'll fill you all in when I hear back from festool   [smile]

 

[Tinker]

Definetly think there is a machine fault never had this problem from any other machines I've used with or without extraction

Well, if you are wearing shoes at the time this happens, then it is not an electrical shock. You need to be grounded for an electrical shock, but a static shock will happen even when you are not. Is any part of your body touching a grounded surface or object?

When i was a kid living on a dairy farm in the Berkshires, we had recently installed electric fencing to keep the cows out of crops.  Down the road were a family who lived in NYC during the week. during summers the mother and children stayed in the country full time.  they often would have young friends up for a week or so.  We all would go down to the "swimming hole", a trip requireing the crossing of the electric fence.  I spent as much of my time as pssible working with the cattle and would often come from the barn to the smimming hole.  I had rubber boots that i wore in the barn and instead of crawling under the fence as the rest of the kids would do, i would just grab the wire with my hand and step over.  Of course, the city kids noticed this and wondered how i could do that.  Being that i was a very helpful kid  :, i would explain that the rubber boots protected me from shock.  I would naturally suggest they newby try it.  [smile]

As they would have a hand on the fence pushing it down to clear with their feet, i would grab them around their waist [oops]  Of course, i was always very careful that the recipient of my generosity was either a lot smaller or, of more importance, a lot slower than I.  [big grin]
Tinker

 

[promhandicam]

A timely post as I've been cutting a lot of oak veneered mdf with my TS55R this last week to make these

and have been getting shocks as the OP described. The saw is plugged into my CTL22 with antistatic hose and is exactly the same setup as I had with my old TS55 so I doubt very much it is static. Will be interested to hear what reply you get from Festool on this before I contact Warren.

 

[Deansocial]

what voltage machines are you both using