Turning 110 to 240 plug extractor midi
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Neil Lickfold
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I think you will need a transformer with an inverter so that it is running on 110v at 60hz. I have not seen motors that run dual voltage and variable frequency. I was looking at a 220v 50hz VFD to single phase output of 110v 60hz and capable of 2400 watts. But in the end flagged the whole idea and just bought some new equipment that ran on 220v 50hz with the NZ plug in our case.
Cheese
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There are motors that can run on dual voltages but they're usually in larger machine tools and fully marked on the motor plate such as this one. I'm not aware of any Festool item that is capable of being rewired to run on dual voltages.
Like Neil mentioned, you'll need a transformer setup.
Like Neil mentioned, you'll need a transformer setup.
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The motor for sure and I guess the print too.
Conclusion; investment exceeds replacement cost > sell it.
Or maybe if you are on some Belgian 127/220 3-phase connection WITH neutral you could connect it to one phase and neutral. But that would still mean it has got to have it's own special outlet.
There is really really near zero value in such 110V tools in 230V land.
EDIT: I should have read better.
No, going from the plug this is a UK jobsite vac. They have 110V 50 Hz there.
Or buy one of these worksite transformer. But then you still can't use the outlet on the vac with 230V tools.
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This has come up before and there are all kinds of limitations with using 110V... as others have mentioned you will need a site transformer, and the cheaper ones are not rated for long-running at full load. This may become annoying if it keeps cutting out every 5 minutes. I think there's also a limit on the wattage of what you can plug into the socket on the extractor?
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There are lots of dual voltage machines out there (in the US) but they are bigger free-standing machines. (Equipment)
Electricians call everything with a motor a machine. (Lights and heating elements are not)
However, it is not as simple as changing the plug. The internal connections need to be moved too.
The dedicated dovetail machine at my old shop was like that. It came to us as an auction purchase. It was previously used as 120v, but we had a convenient 220v outlet. It has run that way for about 3 years.
The UK thing is different. I think they use some kind of jobsite unit. It is powered by the usual 220(240?) and steps down to 110v. They have to use low-voltage tools on jobsites.
I don't fully understand it? Apparently, professionals, who use tools every day, cannot be trusted to keep from sawing through the cord? Yet at home, the tea kettle on the countertop (worktop to them) runs on 220 (and it's full of water)
Make that make sense.
Regardless of all that, going the other way takes a bit more. You need a step-up transformer, but as far as I understand it, that doesn't come free. You lose some duty-cycle, in the exchange. You can't gain power out of nowhere.
The frequency (Hz) doesn't seem to be an issue, at least with motors. It might run slightly slower (or faster depending on which way) but it doesn't damage the tool. I suppose it could disrupt something with an analog clock? (though there may be internal regulators to solve that too?)
I have been running a UK model TS60, since before they were available in the US (May 2023) They are 110v/50Hz, running on US 120v/60Hz. It has made zero difference, as far as I can tell anyway. I have never used a real NA unit, to see if there is a difference. If it does run faster, it feels fine.
Electricians call everything with a motor a machine. (Lights and heating elements are not)
However, it is not as simple as changing the plug. The internal connections need to be moved too.
The dedicated dovetail machine at my old shop was like that. It came to us as an auction purchase. It was previously used as 120v, but we had a convenient 220v outlet. It has run that way for about 3 years.
The UK thing is different. I think they use some kind of jobsite unit. It is powered by the usual 220(240?) and steps down to 110v. They have to use low-voltage tools on jobsites.
I don't fully understand it? Apparently, professionals, who use tools every day, cannot be trusted to keep from sawing through the cord? Yet at home, the tea kettle on the countertop (worktop to them) runs on 220 (and it's full of water)
Make that make sense.
Regardless of all that, going the other way takes a bit more. You need a step-up transformer, but as far as I understand it, that doesn't come free. You lose some duty-cycle, in the exchange. You can't gain power out of nowhere.
The frequency (Hz) doesn't seem to be an issue, at least with motors. It might run slightly slower (or faster depending on which way) but it doesn't damage the tool. I suppose it could disrupt something with an analog clock? (though there may be internal regulators to solve that too?)
I have been running a UK model TS60, since before they were available in the US (May 2023) They are 110v/50Hz, running on US 120v/60Hz. It has made zero difference, as far as I can tell anyway. I have never used a real NA unit, to see if there is a difference. If it does run faster, it feels fine.
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