VAC SYS DISCONTINUED?

Been following this thread for a while and appreciate the info shared here.  Another data point: I ordered a system late last December and it arrived today from BIS.
 
I just ordered SE1 and SE2.  I couldn't find pump for sale anywhere... but thanks to FOG members I can use different pump to work with it. 

-Upon reading this thread, looks like "Vaneer Excel 3 Pump" works with SE units.  Is this the site I can make purchase? (https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Excel-3-Continuous-Run-Vacuum-Press-System.html)

-Is "Excel 3" 120V? or 240V?

-Is "Excel 5" too powerful? it's 5.0 cfm.

-Thankfully one of the member in this thread listed extra parts I will need for the setup. Is there any instruction video or steps I can follow for setting up SE1 and SE2 with this pump?

I can't wait to use them for my shop and thanks for making this work guys! :)

 
JINRO said:
I just ordered SE1 and SE2.  I couldn't find pump for sale anywhere... but thanks to FOG members I can use different pump to work with it. 

-Upon reading this thread, looks like "Vaneer Excel 3 Pump" works with SE units.  Is this the site I can make purchase? (https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Excel-3-Continuous-Run-Vacuum-Press-System.html)

-Is "Excel 3" 120V? or 240V?

-Is "Excel 5" too powerful? it's 5.0 cfm.

-Thankfully one of the member in this thread listed extra parts I will need for the setup. Is there any instruction video or steps I can follow for setting up SE1 and SE2 with this pump?

I can't wait to use them for my shop and thanks for making this work guys! :)
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You can use any of the 3 pumps they offer. I went with the Excel 3 as it was happy middle ground.  The Excel 1 is just a bit better specs then the Festool.  The Excel 3 has even more CFM which is nice.  I can hold very porous wood (MDF) with out issue.
The Excel 5 is even better, but at some point, it's a "how much money do I need to spend". 
Again all 3 will work.  Just get what fits your budget + that  one fitting I posted previously.
The Pump comes with Very good detailed directions and photos to setup everything.
The ONLY step that is different from their directions, is the very last step you will screw in that MALE HiFlow Fitting I gave links to previously in this thread, instead of the quick connect that comes included with the pump.  It is literally that simple.  And it will be super obvious to you when you are putting it all together.  Promise.
Connecting the Vacsys setup is no different.  100% Plug-n-Play.

 
Domino11 said:
...Connecting the Vacsys setup is no different.  100% Plug-n-Play.

Thanks so much for detailed explanation! :) I added some more questions regarding Veneer pumps. Are they all 120v for US use?
Excel 5 seems only $50 from Excel 3. I guess I'll go with 5 :)
 
JINRO said:
Domino11 said:
...Connecting the Vacsys setup is no different.  100% Plug-n-Play.

Thanks so much for detailed explanation! :) I added some more questions regarding Veneer pumps. Are they all 120v for US use?
Excel 5 seems only $50 from Excel 3. I guess I'll go with 5 :)
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From what I can see, they are all 120v  USA  plugs.

FYI, for detailed instructions:  EXCEL PUMP Instructions
 


Forgot to mention these Excel pumps are super compact, quiet and light weight.  Little Pocket Dynamo.

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Domino11 said:


Forgot to mention these Excel pumps are super compact, quiet and light weight.  Little Pocket Dynamo.

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Just Ordered Excel 5! :) Total cost of SE1+SE2+Pump came out similar to Set combo from Festool. Now I'm all set with Festool collection! (yeah right...)

Thanks so much for your help! Would you mind if I reach out to you when I have any question setting them up? :P
 
JINRO said:
Domino11 said:


Forgot to mention these Excel pumps are super compact, quiet and light weight.  Little Pocket Dynamo.

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Just Ordered Excel 5! :) Total cost of SE1+SE2+Pump came out similar to Set combo from Festool. Now I'm all set with Festool collection! (yeah right...)

Thanks so much for your help! Would you mind if I reach out to you when I have any question setting them up? :P

Have confidence, my dude. You have everything you need to figure out how to do this yourself. Once the parts are in front of you it will become quite obvious. 
 
Smart move for $50 the 5 will help with more porous wood with 2 heads and if you ever start vacuum bagging it will help draw down the bag faster.  Depending on the size of the bag it can take a bit. 
 
Domino11 said:
Have confidence, my dude. You have everything you need to figure out how to do this yourself. Once the parts are in front of you it will become quite obvious.

Can't wait to receive my set! :) Quick question, do you know if I can get 4x4 vacuum head custom made anywhere? I deal with small wood crafting many times.  Smallest I see for alternative head is 200mm x 60mm.
 
JINRO said:
Domino11 said:
Have confidence, my dude. You have everything you need to figure out how to do this yourself. Once the parts are in front of you it will become quite obvious.

Can't wait to receive my set! :) Quick question, do you know if I can get 4x4 vacuum head custom made anywhere? I deal with small wood crafting many times.  Smallest I see for alternative head is 200mm x 60mm.

You'll have to make up your own hoses and fittings but yeah you can connect whatever vacuum pump you bought to any vacuum clamp.

https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Podz-Vacuum-Clamping-Jigs.html

These are 4"x4".

You just need a way to couple from european high flow fitting (on the pump), using a quick connect, to whatever hose you adapt to work with the clamps.
 
JINRO said:
Quick question, do you know if I can get 4x4 vacuum head custom made anywhere? I deal with small wood crafting many times.  Smallest I see for alternative head is 200mm x 60mm.

Make your own adapter from some plexiglass, phenolic or sealed MDF. The bottom of the adapter fits whatever head you want to use while the placement of the foam weatherstripping on the top of the adapter mimics what ever small piece you're crafting. A hole in the middle of the adapter completes the task.
 
Cheese said:
JINRO said:
Quick question, do you know if I can get 4x4 vacuum head custom made anywhere? I deal with small wood crafting many times.  Smallest I see for alternative head is 200mm x 60mm.

Make your own adapter from some plexiglass, phenolic or sealed MDF. The bottom of the adapter fits whatever head you want to use while the placement of the foam weatherstripping on the top of the adapter mimics what ever small piece you're crafting. A hole in the middle of the adapter completes the task.

Makes perfect sense! :) I guess I'll use some plastic plate cutout in shape of oblong head and hole out the middle in 4 inch diameter.
Thanks so much! :)
 
DynaGlide said:
You'll have to make up your own hoses and fittings but yeah you can connect whatever vacuum pump you bought to any vacuum clamp.

https://www.veneersupplies.com/products/Podz-Vacuum-Clamping-Jigs.html

These are 4"x4".

You just need a way to couple from european high flow fitting (on the pump), using a quick connect, to whatever hose you adapt to work with the clamps.

Awesome! this is good gadget I can consider. Thanks! :)
 
For 30+ years I've been using a $15.00 surplus 220v Gast HVAC pump.  My new shop does not as yet have electric installed so I bought a Robinair VacuMaster Economy Vacuum Pump - 2-Stage, 5 CFM from Amazon for about $200.00.  It works great.
 
zachjowi said:
Michael Kellough said:

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.
 
Runhard said:
zachjowi said:
Michael Kellough said:

I ordered the SE1, SE2, pump combo but only receive the pump and SE2 today. I hope I am getting the SE1 that I already paid for and need the foot pedal from.

I'm in the same situation. I ordered the complete set with the accessory set and MFT clamp. I received the pump, SE2, and accessory kit, but not the SE1 and MFT clamp. I emailed BIS asking if I would be receiving the SE1 with foot pedal, and if not, what is their return policy. I have not heard back from them yet. My order was placed on 12/21/21.
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You could also demand some compensation.......  SE2 + Footpedal in exchange for the Missing SC1 , instead of walking away and returning the entire thing.
 
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