What age group would play with this toy?

One things that might make part of the process easier for you is one of the inflatable sanding attachments for bench grinders. They're often used for intarsia.

I have one that's roughly 5-6" diameter by about 6-7" long, and not quite fully inflated gives a soft sanding that easily follows contours. This would be absolutely ideal for rounding over the top edges of the dowels once you've cut and glued them in. And generally sanding all the edges too. Huge time saver with the right grit.
 
Inflatable drums are available in various diameters that have a shaft to be chucked in a drill or drill press.  I have them from one inch to three inch.
 
From my perspective, the camera I made used fewer components, was much quicker to build, with far fewer setups.  And it was interactive, in that the child could pretend to take pictures.

The phone could also be interactive in that the child could pretend to be making phone calls.

I don’t know which would entertain a child more, and which would entertain a child more often.

The phone required fairly accurate depth settings on the drill press for 5 separate operations.  Also, required setups for routering the corners and another for the edges.

Also a setup to cut the dowels to length.  Not surprisingly, my table top band saw disappointed again.  I probably needed a wider blade, as it would not make square cuts on the 3/8” dowels, and stalled trying to cut the 1/2” dowels.

The setup on the table saw worked well, except it flung the 5/8” long pieces of dowel all over the place.  I had to jury rig a bin to capture the pieces. The discs for the ear piece was easy—it was cheaper to buy than to make—so purchased items.

At any rate, too much work compared to the other toys I am making.

Note: These will be for next year’s Christmas toy drive.  So no rush.  I am only planning on making about thirty toys total.  About 6 to 10 of each.
 
Our two year-old son makes his own "cell phones" out of bristle blocks.  The only requirement for a "phone" in his mind is that it has to be roughly rectangular, and have a single large red button on it (my wife lets him hang up her calls when she's talking on speakerphone to grandma).  I'm usually able to convince him that whatever I made with my blocks is a phone if I hold it like a phone.

He also makes cameras out of anything with a hole in it.  He loves to look through the hole, tell you to smile, and then say "click!" and wander off.  It'll melt your dang heart, I tell ya.

Point being, most of what you see for "Montessori" type toys (other than that term being over-used) are simple, with very little adornment, and wide imaginative use.

For what it's worth, the original phone design gave me visions of the paint being abraded off of anything with a corner in my house as the phone was dragged back and forth over anything on which it would make fun noises (like when our toddler discovered the button head details on our couches and ran stuff over them repeatedly to make sounds).

For the final phone design, using a small chisel plane to flush-trim all of the protrusions would allow the "phone" to also be repurposed as a building block or wall facade, and would make the block less likely to damage other toys in use.
 
Just a few weeks ago, I saw a lady write a check for groceries! [eek] I haven't seen that for years..... probably at least 20. When I was a kid, that was common, since you could not use credit cards for groceries, and debit cards weren't a thing yet. Cash or checks only. They used to ask for your ID and then wrote your SS# on the check. Then came hat machine that could read the check and verify it with the bank, right on the spot. Those didn't last long though, checks kind of disappeared, as debit cards gained traction.
It hasn't been that long that SS# were still on your ID.
The crazy thing is that when the did pass whatever law it took to remove them, it did not apply to CDL drivers. I took several years before it came to them too.
Yeah, it’s wild how fast things changed! I can’t even remember the last time I saw someone write a check at the grocery store either. Now everything’s tap, swipe, or scan even kids are growing up thinking Apple Pay is just how you pay for everything.
 
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Imagine the reaction of people when cheques were first introduced and they did not have to carry real money a totally revolutionary idea in those times.
 
Yeah, it’s wild how fast things changed! I can’t even remember the last time I saw someone write a check at the grocery store either. Now everything’s tap, swipe, or scan even kids are growing up thinking Apple Pay is just how you pay for everything.
Welcome to FOG.
 
Yeah, it’s wild how fast things changed! I can’t even remember the last time I saw someone write a check at the grocery store either. Now everything’s tap, swipe, or scan even kids are growing up thinking Apple Pay is just how you pay for everything.
The problem with kids being raised that way is they never actually have a relationship, with their money. Studies have shown that people spend more with cards, then they would with cash. Your brain doesn't see that money leave your hand, so it didn't happen. Also, as you spend, your wallet gets lighter. You notice that, you see the "balance" left behind. With a card, neither of those cues are shown.
It's not all kids though. Adults can be just as bad. So many people buy cars, based on the payment, never considering the total of those payments.
I remember when a 48 month car loan was considered long-term. It was originally only used on higher priced vehicles. Now they are up in the 84 month range, for everyday transportation type cars. Plus, the payment is still high.
 
I remember when a 48 month car loan was considered long-term. It was originally only used on higher priced vehicles. Now they are up in the 84 month range, for everyday transportation type cars. Plus, the payment is still high.
I don't know the name as it was just too depressing to watch, but I saw a few bits of a show from the States where people who couldn't afford a pushbike would take many year loans on incredibly expensive cars, and in most cases they defaulted in a matter of months. It should have been criminal to provide the loans in the first place.

Some had scraped together a large deposit, and still took the 8-10 year loan on an expensive car, winding up paying 3 times the cost of the car, and still losing it anyway. Insane.
 
I don't know the name as it was just too depressing to watch, but I saw a few bits of a show from the States where people who couldn't afford a pushbike would take many year loans on incredibly expensive cars, and in most cases they defaulted in a matter of months. It should have been criminal to provide the loans in the first place.

Some had scraped together a large deposit, and still took the 8-10 year loan on an expensive car, winding up paying 3 times the cost of the car, and still losing it anyway. Insane.
Unfortunately, our system is rather predatory. They will go out of their way to loan money to people who really can't afford it, but it's what the people want. It's not like it is being forced on them or some kind of trickery. The "trick"
is actually on the lender, in some form of misrepresentation. The lenders don't care that much though, because they get their money either way. It comes from higher interest, which is "front-loaded" too, and they will repo the asset, selling it again.
 
Unfortunately, our system is rather predatory. They will go out of their way to loan money to people who really can't afford it, but it's what the people want. It's not like it is being forced on them or some kind of trickery. The "trick"
is actually on the lender, in some form of misrepresentation. The lenders don't care that much though, because they get their money either way. It comes from higher interest, which is "front-loaded" too, and they will repo the asset, selling it again.
Blame the Japanese car industry. They upped the quality and durability of cars so that longer term loans make sense.

My father drove about 40,000 miles per year in the 1960s and 1970s. He bought new cars and used them for 2 years and then gave them to my mother to use, as she only drove about 5,000 miles per year. But when she was done with them, they were essentially worn out. The only part of the car, according to my father, that outlasted the rest of the car was the rear differential. Everything else had a 2 years half-life.

It used to be that the moment you drove your new car off the dealer’s lot, it lost 50% of its value. That is not the case anymore and by my estimation, used cars are not a good value.

A while back, I looked at a used Acura. Just 2 years old and looked showroom. But when I did the math, the same model as a new car made more sense. The calculations were like this:

1. I keep cars for 5 years.
2. I used the same deposit for either the new or used car.
3. I financed the new car for 5 years.
4. I financed the used car until it was 5 years old (for 3 years).
5. The monthly payments on the new car were lower than for the used car.
6. The new car had a new car guarantee, and included loaner cars for repairs.

So I bought the new car

New cars are more expensive than the cars of the 1960s or 1970s or 1980s.

Current cars come with more stuff. Some of the stuff is shown below on my “stuff list”.

1. Anti-lock brakes
2. Enhanced stability control
3. Back-up cameras
4. Crumble zones for safety.
5. Side collision intrusion guards
6. Air bags
7. Smart cruise control (included on my car,,optional on other models).
8. Emissions abatement stuff.
9. Traction control (not as effective as a limited slip differential)

That the “stuff list” as quickly comes to mind. I’m sure I am leaving a lot of “stuff” off the list that belongs.

New cars will last for 84 months (at 12,000 miles per year = 84,000 miles). Cars in the 1960s, 1970s, and into 1980s were generally on their last gasp by 84,000 miles). The Japanese cars lasted longer and the American cars were in “catch up” mode. Nowadays, most cars, (including both of my Chryslers) are reliable after they hit 100,000 miles. (Chryslers were never top echelon durability cars from my experience. Still aren’t according to what I have read. But easily last 84 months.)

It is extremely painful to have to make car payments on a vehicle that is in the scrap yard. An 84 month loan on a 1960s car would have had you doing just that.

A new car guarantee in 1960, typically (according to Google A.I., and my recollection):

A typical new car guarantee in 1960 was
two years or 24,000 miles, which was the average industry standard at the time. However, some manufacturers, like Ford, offered shorter warranties, such as a 90-day warranty for parts and a 30-day warranty for labor. Chrysler introduced the most generous warranty of the decade with a 50,000-mile, five-year guarantee on engine and powertrain components in 1962, which other manufacturers were forced to follow.


 
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@Packard Are you building toys to give away this year?

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I built the toys last year because I hurt my back and could not heft sheets of plywood and needed work that allowed me to remain seated most of the time.

I started on the toys this year (I cut out 60 profiles on the scroll saw, and did the round overs on the router table), but my back got worse.

Six doctors later, from 5 different disciplines, plus two different physical therapy schedules, and I remain unable to sit at the work bench, drill press and finishing table to complete the toys.

I am at the very beginning of the second physical therapy schedule, and I remain moderately hopeful.

The good news is that I don’t need hip replacement, spinal surgery, and my psoriatic arthritis (which had been beaten into remission) has not returned.

Some of the meds I take for cholesterol have a side effect of weakening the lower back. So I’ve been off them for a few weeks to see if that helps.

The start of making the toys went much quicker as several of the designs were established and I retained templates for them. But at this point, it does not appear as I will be able to deliver them in time.

As a bit of frustration, I had hoped to produce some toys for older kids (about 12 years plus). I spent an inordinate amount of time developing a small flower press that would be suitable for that age group. However, I have Mom-Team who give me feedback on my designs, and though I had worked out all the issues in production, the Moms gave the project a thumbs down.

It was pointed out that I was making these for financially-challenged families, and though the kit I made up was comprehensive, there would be some small on-going expenses for money that was not available. Instead of a fun toy, it would be a constant source of frustration.

If anyone wants to produce a flower press for that age group, I would be a good source of information and they should let me know and I will assist.
 
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I want to say that my dad had a car whose odometer only went to 99,999.
Back in the day, they were all like that. They were called 100k mile odometers. The newer 1M mile units came along in the 80s, but I don't recall it ever being some legal mandate. They just rolled into it organically, as the typical driver started driving more. They were all old rolling dials too, the digital ones made the higher range easier.

@Packard All of that "stuff" on your list is just driving the price up, along with the things you left out like screens and comfort things such as power windows/locks etc. None of those things makes the car better, for simple transportation, like commuting to work.

Modernity has definitely changed things though. My first car was a '69 Camaro RS/SS, cowl hood, the whole bit. However, at that time it was "just a 10 year old car", adults considered it worn out...ie, "old", but back then cars were turned over much more frequently than they are today. The US was just coming out of the era where new cars looked noticeably different, from one year to the next. The late 70s was when they started the "3 year group", then a re-fresh the following year. As time progressed, these "generations" (iterations) grew longer. As an example, Chevrolet trucks wer the same from '73 to '80, with a very minor update from '81 to '87.

The addition of computers, to increase fuel mileage, was the beginning. Those early cars were still effectively the same though. After that, everything added nothing but raise the cost, which also increased insurance cost. Most of that list of stuff is just a distraction, adding no real value to transportation, just to the cost.
Cost and value, not being the same thing.
 
As I recall we used to call the restart to 000,000 as “rolling the odometer”, but I am a bit vague on that.

Volvo gained its enviable reputation for durability on the back of one owner who rolled the odometer twice (200,000 miles).

I followed that story because:

!. I had the same year and model (1964 Volvo P1800)
2. I had my car serviced at the same dealership as the 200K car (Volvoville on Long Island, NY)

When the car clocked 200,000 miles, apparently Volvoville notified the importer and they made a TV ad featuring the car, the owner and the fact that they gifted him a brand new Volvo sedan. All of this was documented in photos in the waiting room at Volvoville’s service.

But rather than switching to the new sedan, the P1800 owner apparently became addicted to racking mileage on the car. As he approached 300,000 miles, the chassis developed a fatigue generated crack which Volvo declined to repair and recommended that the car be retired. Instead, the owner took the car to a shop where the chassis was repaired by welding the crack.

When that happened all the photos on the wall in Volvoville’s waiting room of that car and its owner were taken down. I asked why, and they gave me the above story. And added that all Volvo dealerships were forbidden from servicing that car. Volvo’s fear, of course, was that further metal fatigue cracks would occur and they would be liable (not to say anything about the bad publicity).

In any case, Volvo’s reputation for durability was built on the back of that one rear wheel drive car. That car was in production from about 1960 to 1970.

I liked my car, but it was the singularly most unreliable car I have ever owned. I was 20 years old when I got it. It was customary for me to say when I was to meet friends, “I will meet you at XX:00 o’clock or not at all.” Because there was a reasonable expectation that the car would break down.

It was molded after an earlier Ferrari.

This is the car. Mine was red also, but metallic finishes were not available back then.

It’s most unusual feature: An auxiliary electric fuel pump so that it would function at high altitudes.

Stupidest design feature: Placing the gasoline filler cap at the top of the rear fender (driver’s side). In heavy rain, the gas tank would fill with rainwater. The gas cap is briefly shown in the video. New cars were shipped with a removable plastic cap. I was able to get one and that, along with drilling a drain hole, solved the rain water problem.

 
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If anyone wants to produce a flower press for that age group, I would be a good source of information and they should let me know and I will assist.

Bummer to hear health is in the way of getting to the finish line of your hobby project.

I’m curious about the Flower Press as a possible gift to the gardener wife.

Might you have a link that will provide some insight?
 
Bummer to hear health is in the way of getting to the finish line of your hobby project.

I’m curious about the Flower Press as a possible gift to the gardener wife.

Might you have a link that will provide some insight?
The concept of a flower press is exceedingly simple. You have a top platen, a piece of blotter paper, the flower to be pressed, another piece of blotter paper and a bottom platen. Add to that a way to create some pressure on the layers. You can stack layers by placing a cardboard spacer between the sandwiches of blotter paper/flower/blotter paper.

The blotter paper has to be removed daily and replaced. The removed blotter paper can be reused once it has been allowed to dry out. Otherwise mold will form. It can be reused as many times as you want as long as it is not worn out and there is no mold.

When I was in grade school, a friend’s mother used to press flowers. She would open a volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica in the middle and place the layers on the pages and close the book. That was her flower press.

I got my inspiration from looking at Etsy flower presses.


I had special considerations.

First there were several pits of hardware that a child could lose. I wanted to make all (or most) of the hardware permanently attached. That might not be a consideration if you are making one for an adult.

Second, it was to be a gift. So it had to look “finished” enough to qualify as gift-like. I think you are going to probably want to do the same.

Third, I wanted to make it as complete a kit as possible, including appropriately sized blotter paper, spacers, tweezers and card stock for a first try at a finished product. Again, this might not apply in your situation.

Here is my version. In my version the corner posts are permanently attached to avoid loss. They are typically loose pieces.

The metal washers at the top have been replaces by UHDP (Ultra High Density Polypropylene), a material with high lubricity and abrasion resistance. It made a nice substitute for the washers. (I tried epoxying the metal washer onto the platen, but they quickly broke off.)

I added two rare earth magnets to hold the wing nuts, in an effort to reduce loss. There is some folding post hardware out there, but I could not find it and it looked prohibitively expensive.

For adult users, these are not considerations.

I added a template for cutting additional cardboard spacers and blotter paper. An alternative to blotter paper are sheets of old (at least 2 weeks old) newspaper sheets. The ink on newspaper dries slowly and two weeks is generally sufficient time to allow the ink to dry or it will transfer to the flowers).

I included a pair of specimen tweezers (different from eyebrow tweezers).

I did not include the glue for adhering the flowers to the card stock.

I originally use a single 1-1/2” diameter magnet, but the holding power was so great that I needed a pair of pliers to remove the wind nuts from the magnet. Even the smaller magnets are more easily removed by sliding the wing nuts off the magnet rather than pulling them off.

Flower presses are sized according to metric paper sizes. Mine were “A6” (about 4” x 6”). I made mine from 5/8” oak recycled from cabinet doors that I removed during a kitchen remodel.

I estimate that each press cost me about $4.00 including all supplies and the tweezer (but with no-cost recycled oak).

After all the design issues were resolved (and there were a lot of them), I set up a production line and produced a single lot of 10 pieces.

Brass screws, wing nuts, and washers would probably look richer, but would not stick to the magnets.

I purchased the cardboard and blotter paper from Amazon and cut to size. I have a guillotine style paper cutter and it went quickly. Cutting the blotter paper would be easy with a pair of scissors, but cutting the cardboard would otherwise require a utility knife to cut. The cardboard is corrugated, and could easily be recycled from old cartons. You can either buy the blotter paper or used recycled newspapers. There are plenty of instructions online.

A caveat:

After I decided that the flower presses were inappropriate for the financially challenged group I was producing for, I sought out people with artistic yearnings to gift to. It was surprisingly difficult to find anyone to accept one. I gave away two to acquaintances and one to my niece in May. As of now, none have actually used it. I have 7 left. I am thinking of gifting them to some high school art department.

In any case, if there is a way to check for interest in the pressing of flowers, I would do that before making the press.

Note: The closest match I could find for my presses on Etsy cost $165.00, and lacked the design considerations that would mitigate against lost hardware. So, if nicely done, a nice gift.





 
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