What Festool Did You buy Today?

[Gregor]

The quality of the plastic used is disappointing to see.

I don’t think its that bad. They need  keep it “light”, for sure not a table to take with you for a “few” hours.

Brittle plastics is IMHO no good idea, especially for stuff that is intended to be moved.

 

[bertv]

The quality of the plastic used is disappointing to see.

I don’t think its that bad. They need  keep it “light”, for sure not a table to take with you for a “few” hours.

Brittle plastics is IMHO no good idea, especially for stuff that is intended to be moved.

Well, Festool came through. Just got a phone call & a new wheel assembly is on its way to me (under warranty).

 

[threesixright]

The quality of the plastic used is disappointing to see.

I don’t think its that bad. They need  keep it “light”, for sure not a table to take with you for a “few” hours.

Brittle plastics is IMHO no good idea, especially for stuff that is intended to be moved.

Whatever they do, they will never do it right for everybody. IMHO this is not a true job saw (unless your after a hernia, or 2). I think its more designed to move it around in your (small) shop. But allows -for rare occasions- you can take it with you. If you want a true portable saw, I would choose something different. That said, this is a version 1.0, so I expect(ed) some issues. Overall I like the built (got one myself). And the plastic is just a way to save on weight. Not saying it's OK  for parts to break easily. I trust FT will upgrade some of the parts as we go, if it turns out to be an issue.

TBH I rather would have them do something on the mechanism to tilt the blade (the lever and the fine-tune knob), that I don't find a great solution.

And on mine nothing broke (yet  [unsure])... 

 

[Gregor]

The design of the Schiebetisch looks to be unchanged from and, apart from the extra leg and the clips for the screws inside the box, identical to the CS 50 one. I have an old one (bought used some years ago) which is identical in every other resort, except the wheels that had been changed to metal ones by the previous owner as he as tired of replacing broken ones.

So yea, in some way the deconstructing wheels are a 1.0 issue...

 

[Cheese]

Interestingly enough, here's what Festool has to say in the Owners Manual, instruction #3. The bold & large lettering is Festool's decision, not mine.

3 Intended use
The TKS 80 EBS is designed as a transportable power tool for sawing wood, laminated wooden panels, non-ferrous metals and plastic.

And here's instruction #7.

7 Transportation
CAUTION
Heavy bench-mounted circular saw Risk of injury
► The bench-mounted circular saw must be
carried by two people.
► Hold it by the handle areas on the
side [3-3] for transport. Never take hold of and transport the power tool by the guard.

So the take-away is this is a transportable saw that should be handled by 2 people and because of its portability, it will possibly be assembled & disassembled hundreds of times during its lifetime. So those plastic covered rollers are a potential liability.  [sad]  It seems that simply changing the material of the rollers to nylon or Delrin would cure the problem.  [smile]

 

[threesixright]

transportable

Thats the keyword, which IMO is not even close to meaning portable  . And if you didn't RTFM, then it pretty clear when you lift it  [big grin]

 

[sancho57]

How did you try to put the sliding table on the saw?
I had a issue with breaking the rollers on my CMS.
Talked to Allan K about it, He said if you just well put it on the saw you will damage the rollers.
You have slide the table on the saw from the front or rear.
I started doing that and have had no issues since.

 

[threesixright]

How did you try to put the sliding table on the saw?

Good question, I'm also curious what now happend  [blink]

 

[bertv]

How did you try to put the sliding table on the saw?

Good question, I'm also curious what now happend  [blink]

Slid it onto the rail as it is supposed to. My first reaction was: did it hit something -- but it was the front wheel, the one that slid on first, so no. I DID feel stupid because it happened to me before, with the whole thing on the VL.

BTW  The manuals are somewhat lacking, as always. Wish that FS hired a proper manual writer to do their manuals (or a better one if they already do).

 

[Imemiter]

Of course the day I go in to finally buy the SYS MFT FX that'd been in the shop for months, it's been sold. [sad]

To console myself I picked up two fast clamps and the clamping elements. Tonight I'm cruising Amazon looking for dog deals.

 

[pettyconstruction]

I have a Fein supercut that I love but rolling out a cord for a few minutes of use was getting to me. Sometimes the set up took longer than the project.

I ordered a vecturo that arrived today.

My first impression is that it feels like quality, like my Fein.
It came with the new systainer, and a blade.
Bare tool , I have some chargers and about 7-8 batteries, so to save some money, that’s why I did.

I will see have I like it tomorrow, but I know I already like the way the blade goes on , after just a few minutes of handling the tool.

Oh and the New systainer is nice with a handle on top, but the handle that is on the lid pops open when carrying it on its side. That is dumb. Bad design if you ask me.
Cheers, charlie

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[Scott in Bend Oregon]

Oh and the New systainer is nice with a handle on top, but the handle that is on the lid pops open when carrying it on its side. That is dumb. Bad design if you ask me.
Cheers, charlie

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Both the top handle and side handle snap in to place with a firm push.  They will not swing out.

 

[pettyconstruction]

Oh and the New systainer is nice with a handle on top, but the handle that is on the lid pops open when carrying it on its side. That is dumb. Bad design if you ask me.
Cheers, charlie

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Both the top handle and side handle snap in to place with a firm push.  They will not swing out.

Well thanks, after your comment ,I went back and confirmed what you said. It does snap down in place. Duh.
I should have messed with the systainer a little more.
Thanks ,Charlie

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[DynaGlide]

[member=9356]pettyconstruction[/member] Charlie, what's the cheapest path to getting a battery and charger to use the OSC 18? I've never fully understood Festool's cordless battery interchangeability. I would like to get the OSC 18 some day but currently own no 18V batteries.

 

[pettyconstruction]

[member=9356]pettyconstruction[/member] Charlie, what's the cheapest path to getting a battery and charger to use the OSC 18? I've never fully understood Festool's cordless battery interchangeability. I would like to get the OSC 18 some day but currently own no 18V batteries.
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I don’t really know, the separate battery and charger  is fairly expensive.
In my case I bought a tool with a charger and have added batteries over time.
I guess you have to buy them separate and eat the cost.
Btw I don’t have the new 4ah Bluetooth battery or any Bluetooth ones, I will get one later.
Charlie

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[Euclid]

Does the cordless Vecturo accept the same batteries as the cordless sanders (ETSC for example)?
That would seem to make sense from the point of view of compactness and ease of handling in use - but the images I've seen show it with one of the smaller 'regular' style batteries. Or are they, in turn, another battery format of their own?

 

[threesixright]

Does the cordless Vecturo accept the same batteries as the cordless sanders (ETSC for example)?
That would seem to make sense from the point of view of compactness and ease of handling in use - but the images I've seen show it with one of the smaller 'regular' style batteries. Or are they, in turn, another battery format of their own?

No those are different batteries. The sanders and the CXS have both different batteries (other then the 18V). I choose to have corded sanders, since I hook them up with a vac anyway. For the battery powered (most?) Sanders there is also a plugit adapter (so you could by the sander with a battery and run it via a cord)

I bought a C18 SET with charger and battery. The rest of my tools (with the 18V system) I bought without batteries (so the basic version, which included the systainer). At the time FT had free battery with a tool. I think they have these "free batteries" actions at-least 1 or 2 year (at least in the EU). So all my 18V tools (Carvex, BHC and Ventura) have now one battery, paid only for C18 one [big grin]

 

[mrboult]

Cordless vecturo take the regular festool 18v batteries, that come with the drills, saws, grinder & oscillator.

The only 18 festool batteries that are different are for the cordless sanders. The 3 cordless sanders Are currently the only tools to use those batteries.

 

[Jiggy Joiner]

Regarding the TKS 80, I saw it demonstrated at three different tool fair including the Festool roadshow.
The public seemed very taken with it generally but, on all three occasions, and also in a dealers, I heard people moaning about the plastic parts, and whether it was a true portable saw or not.

One of the Festool reps, might have been Phil but, can’t be sure, mentioned it was a prototype and may go through some changes, before final release.

As Cheese mentioned Delrin or PTFE may have been a better choice of material, instead of plastic. I guess if this becomes an issue, they’ll modify some part.
Not a fan of plastic in tools, or rather the over use of it but, I fully understand it’s benefits, and the tech that goes into it. Even some of my favourite tools include a lot of plastic.
I remember owning an all metal table saw many years ago, it was superb but, got stolen.
When I bought the replacement, I was a bit upset to see how much plastic was used.
The top was alloy but, the main body, knobs and levers all plastic.

That saw is still in use on site 24 year later, it’s been a superb tool.
So I misjudged it’s durability.

 

[AlexThePalex]

I saw the TKS80 for the first time in the store today. I went over it with a microscope.

I was also unpleasantly surprised by the amount of plastic in it. Especially those wheels mentioned that broke, I can see why. Incredibly flimsy, like cheap chinese stuff. REALLY, Festool?