What Festool Did You buy Today?

[me_two]

I bought myself a Domino DF500-Q today.
Festool Rep came to my house today so I could have a play with the tool.
Now I need to practice and practice a lot.

Thank you for this wonderful site and knowledge.

Mark

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I bought myself a Domino DF500-Q today.
Festool Rep came to my house today so I could have a play with the tool.
Now I need to practice and practice a lot.

Thank you for this wonderful site and knowledge.

Mark

There is a bit of a learning curve, but you will love it.
Hint, be sure to check all of the settings, before each use, depth probably being most important.
Nearly everyone has gone too deep on the side of a right angled joint and driven it through the side of the part.

 

[me_two]

@ Crazyraceguy Thank you for wisdom. I’m sure I will make mistakes but that’s what you call learning.

 

[Coen]

Also avoid pulling the wood with your other hand as it can get bloody if you plunge too deep.

On topic; my Festool FSV/2 (#577039) will finally arrive tomorrow  [big grin], 3+ weeks after ordering (I knew the backlog when ordering).

 

[PaulMarcel]

I went to Woodcraft to drop off a blade for sharpening and came back with the socket set. Love the kit, but wonder why they didn't include the 1/4-Inch Centrotec Socket Adapter (495131). Will carve out a spot for it.

It also seems like the sockets are all easily within the top half of the insert. I'm thinking about cutting off the bottom half of the insert to create storage for "other stuff" and make the top half easier to pull out.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Also avoid pulling the wood with your other hand as it can get bloody if you plunge too deep.

On topic; my Festool FSV/2 (#577039) will finally arrive tomorrow  [big grin], 3+ weeks after ordering (I knew the backlog when ordering).

I was holding a small piece 1/2” plywood and to keep the wood tight to the tool my fingers were right in the line of fire, and I had forgot shorten the plunge depth. Luckily the outer veneer layer started vibrating milliseconds before the bit broke through and my hand reflexively let go. Just a scratch.

 

[jon003]

I retail therapied my way into a Vecturo set. Now I gotta stop for a while.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I went to Woodcraft to drop off a blade for sharpening and came back with the socket set. Love the kit, but wonder why they didn't include the 1/4-Inch Centrotec Socket Adapter (495131). Will carve out a spot for it.

It also seems like the sockets are all easily within the top half of the insert. I'm thinking about cutting off the bottom half of the insert to create storage for "other stuff" and make the top half easier to pull out.

I hope you are not as annoyed by the realization that there is no 7/16" socket in the entire kit.
The half inch drive stops at 1/2" on the small end of the range. Then the 1/4" set jumps from 13/32" all the way to 1/2", skipping 7/16" and 15/32".
You can always use 11mm instead, but it just seemed silly to me to exclude it?

 

[Cheese]

And to add to the Crg story, 7/16” is the hex size for 1/4-20 bolts, probably the most ubiquitous bolt size used in North America.  [crying]  [crying]

 

[PaulMarcel]

[member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member] and [member=44099]Cheese[/member] well, guess I'm doing a return today. I didn't pull each out to verify the full range but made a bad assumption instead. Yeah, my 7/16" nut driver has tape on it to find it easily because nearly every bolt I use is 1/4-20...  [huh]

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Sorry, I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I was stunned by it myself. It would have been less shocking if they had stopped at 13/32 and been done, but to skip 2 sizes and then include a 1/2" which you already have in the 1/2" drive side?

I would love to get a legitimate explanation for that blunder. I did buy a spare 7/16" to keep in there, but it doesn't sit so well with my level of OCD

 

[six-point socket II]

I think part of the explanation might be the question of who put that set together, Festool Germany or Festool USA.

If the standard sets come from the the same supplier that the metric ones come from, and Festool USA imports these, my wild guess would be that whomever was the project manager for these sets, on our side of the big pond, simply didn't know any better - and the supplier probably didn't know about it either or didn't want to point out the importance of the 7/16" size for whatever reason.

Additionally, no one felt the need to check the contents for plausibility pre-release/ no one with knowledge about common/important standard/imperial sizes checked the content pre-release.

Sadly it happens all the time when companies stray away from their core competency.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Alan m]

i did something i said i would never do. i bought a festool drill. the quad drive . all i can say is im in love. its a lovely drill to use. bought it for the high rpm for my souber lock jig. . cant wait to try it out.
i can definetly see a cordless vac in my near future.

The TPC18? I recently got one as well, great drill.

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it really is a great drill. 3600 rpm is great. it leave my dewalt in the dust. total game changer for my souber lock jig

 

[Chris1970]

[smile]HKC55

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I think part of the explanation might be the question of who put that set together, Festool Germany or Festool USA.

If the standard sets come from the the same supplier that the metric ones come from, and Festool USA imports these, my wild guess would be that whomever was the project manager for these sets, on our side of the big pond, simply didn't know any better - and the supplier probably didn't know about it either or didn't want to point out the importance of the 7/16" size for whatever reason.

Additionally, no one felt the need to check the contents for plausibility pre-release/ no one with knowledge about common/important standard/imperial sizes checked the content pre-release.

Sadly it happens all the time when companies stray away from their core competency.

Kind regards,
Oliver

I get what you are saying Oliver, "to a degree". Sure, they may completely space on the importance of one particular size, but the entire run goes in 1/32" increments, up to 13/32". Then it skips 2 and the last one is redundant? Come on.

I was really trying to be on their side with this, thinking that they were just "saving space" by reducing duplicates. Many "cheap" combination SAE/Metric sets will drop 16mm because 5/8" is so close, even more sets will drop 19mm because 3/4" is so close. Most of them neglect the 5/16" and 8mm though?  7/16" and 11mm are within .004" of each other too, so thinking that's where they were going, I checked the others that I previously listed. Nope, they are all there, so that's not it.
I just don't get it? It's like a poor language translation in a document, where even one native speaker would see it immediately.
Proof-read, double-check, and run preview tests by someone other than those directly involved.

Personally, I would like to see an acknowledgement of this by the higher-ups and some kind of opps, sorry, here's a 7/16" socket for your troubles. Matching, of course.

 

[Coen]

Yet another problem caused by sticking to an outdated measurements system.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Yet another problem caused by sticking to an outdated measurements system.

Well, you kind of have to, just to repair/service legacy stuff. Even if everything manufactured from this day forward is metric, the old doesn't just disappear. Of course the sooner you start with this, the less time it takes to get most everything replaced, but there will always be holdouts.
The UK guys know that there is still some old Whitworth stuff hanging around. At least we don't have that here

I get what you are saying, we talk about switching the entire shop (drawings and all) over to metric every once in a while. The vast majority of the machines are already doing it in the background. They just convert for the display that the humans interface.
I'm one if the ones who complains about Festool doing the Imperial scales on "some" of the tools.
I wish they had just left it alone.

 

[six-point socket II]

I think part of the explanation might be the question of who put that set together, Festool Germany or Festool USA.

If the standard sets come from the the same supplier that the metric ones come from, and Festool USA imports these, my wild guess would be that whomever was the project manager for these sets, on our side of the big pond, simply didn't know any better - and the supplier probably didn't know about it either or didn't want to point out the importance of the 7/16" size for whatever reason.

Additionally, no one felt the need to check the contents for plausibility pre-release/ no one with knowledge about common/important standard/imperial sizes checked the content pre-release.

Sadly it happens all the time when companies stray away from their core competency.

Kind regards,
Oliver

I get what you are saying Oliver, "to a degree". Sure, they may completely space on the importance of one particular size, but the entire run goes in 1/32" increments, up to 13/32". Then it skips 2 and the last one is redundant? Come on.

I was really trying to be on their side with this, thinking that they were just "saving space" by reducing duplicates. Many "cheap" combination SAE/Metric sets will drop 16mm because 5/8" is so close, even more sets will drop 19mm because 3/4" is so close. Most of them neglect the 5/16" and 8mm though?  7/16" and 11mm are within .004" of each other too, so thinking that's where they were going, I checked the others that I previously listed. Nope, they are all there, so that's not it.
I just don't get it? It's like a poor language translation in a document, where even one native speaker would see it immediately.
Proof-read, double-check, and run preview tests by someone other than those directly involved.

Personally, I would like to see an acknowledgement of this by the higher-ups and some kind of opps, sorry, here's a 7/16" socket for your troubles. Matching, of course.

I totally understand, I'm really not trying to whitewash this. And I sure would want and explanation (and the "missing" socket) as well, had I bought the set.

To me the hand tool offerings, except the Centrotec handle coming with the installer's set, really don't appeal that much.

I really hope you get the explanation you are looking for!

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Crazyraceguy]

The main reason I got the set was to have everything more portable. I do most of the repairs and maintenance of the equipment in the shop where I work. It's a big place, 60k sqft total, with over 50k of that being shop space. It can be quite a walk from my area to the bigger machines, so if I can throw the sockets, pliers, and screwdrivers Systainers onto a cart, with a deadblow mallet, I'm good to go.
This is all clean, modern, and new machinery, no greasy nasty automotive stuff here, so the plastic handles don't bother me.

 

[six-point socket II]

That makes a lot of sense!

Kind regards,
Oliver