What have I let myself in for
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Big pieces of cardboard from refrigerator boxes, etc are good to scribe on. Then you can trim them to fit and have a perfect template for relatively cheap.
I would say that the port side and starboard side mirror each other so once a template is made for one side it could work for the other.
Houses are usually not built as squarely as they should be so maybe sailboats aren't either but I'll bet the boat is symetrical since the mold used to form it was used many times and had to be right.
Maybe that's why I always see sailboats leaning over. They aren't "square" and lean to the heavy side.
I would say that the port side and starboard side mirror each other so once a template is made for one side it could work for the other.
Houses are usually not built as squarely as they should be so maybe sailboats aren't either but I'll bet the boat is symetrical since the mold used to form it was used many times and had to be right.
Maybe that's why I always see sailboats leaning over. They aren't "square" and lean to the heavy side.
I used a method sort of like ticking stick to lay out stone treads on a couple of winding staircases that i built. i cut out ply scord treads that i took to the stone yard to have cut into treads. I even used the method to lay out an inside circular brick staircase with stone treads. The architect and the builder did not have a clue to what i was doing nor if the steps would come out even with the upper floor. I had scratches and marks all over the entrance floor base and the walls going up. It took me quite a while to do the layout as i kept all info in my head and a scratch paper to refer to. I used my 48" masons level and a story pole with a central point about 6 feet or so away from the sides of the staircase.
I had everybody scratching their heads but did not let on that i was just about as doubtful as they were. The architect told me it was impossible since i was working over a stairwell to the cellar below that had been built to support a more conventional rectangular stairs above. I managed to squeeze the whole thing in with inches to spare for headroom to the stairway below. It was fun. especially when i finished and everything exceeded code.
Tinker
I had everybody scratching their heads but did not let on that i was just about as doubtful as they were. The architect told me it was impossible since i was working over a stairwell to the cellar below that had been built to support a more conventional rectangular stairs above. I managed to squeeze the whole thing in with inches to spare for headroom to the stairway below. It was fun. especially when i finished and everything exceeded code.
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Somehow I missed this thread... Never mind...
You can use a Tick Stick, but I say you need a Jogglestick!
It's all in the fits...
It's all in the shape (and splitting hairs to some) but I say a Jogglestick has a far lower error margin. Use a Jogglestick correctly and there is zero confusion and room for error, when you transpose your template... but no allowance for stupidity. :grin
I tip my hat to @NorfolkNgood :bow, he works at the 'top end of town', whilst I am a humble boatbuilder with only 23 odd wooden boats under my belt, and none of those would probably even be considered as suitable tenders to those lofty folk.
However, I've built many a canoe, sailing trimaran, and various gunkholing craft...
As well as working on an incredibly diverse range of craft at our local Maritime Museum as a volunteer through our local Wooden Boat Association.
Even did a stint working at a local Epoxy Manufacturers (WEST Competitor) Factory, where I built several 'moulds' they then used to produce Production DIY Boat Kits, they are now selling. Done a bit with timber, glass, Kevlar, foam, vac-bagging, laminating in 59 varieties, resin infusion, strip planking, cold moulding, all that good stuff.
There's no money in building small wooden boats, so I renovate houses to pay my bills and fuel my passion, which is...
Build'n and mess'n about in small boats....
BTW what is the definition of a 'small boat'
Answer: It is a large hole in the water that you never stop pouring money into....
:tongue :big cheesy grin
You can use a Tick Stick, but I say you need a Jogglestick!
It's all in the fits...
It's all in the shape (and splitting hairs to some) but I say a Jogglestick has a far lower error margin. Use a Jogglestick correctly and there is zero confusion and room for error, when you transpose your template... but no allowance for stupidity. :grin
I tip my hat to @NorfolkNgood :bow, he works at the 'top end of town', whilst I am a humble boatbuilder with only 23 odd wooden boats under my belt, and none of those would probably even be considered as suitable tenders to those lofty folk.
However, I've built many a canoe, sailing trimaran, and various gunkholing craft...
As well as working on an incredibly diverse range of craft at our local Maritime Museum as a volunteer through our local Wooden Boat Association.
Even did a stint working at a local Epoxy Manufacturers (WEST Competitor) Factory, where I built several 'moulds' they then used to produce Production DIY Boat Kits, they are now selling. Done a bit with timber, glass, Kevlar, foam, vac-bagging, laminating in 59 varieties, resin infusion, strip planking, cold moulding, all that good stuff.
There's no money in building small wooden boats, so I renovate houses to pay my bills and fuel my passion, which is...
Build'n and mess'n about in small boats....
BTW what is the definition of a 'small boat'
Answer: It is a large hole in the water that you never stop pouring money into....
:tongue :big cheesy grin
My only experience with boatbuilding was a kit boat when i had just gotten out of the army. it turned out to be quite sturdy. I never tried another, as very shortly thereafter, i started my mason bis and never figured how to build a boat out of stone and brick. I did, however, construct several "Stone Boats" over the years. :
Def: A stone boat is a flat conveyance that farmers (and in my case, masons) use to drag loads of stone over ground. It was used when a conveyence with wheels was not available, the wagon would be too high for lift heavy rocks up on to, or the ground was too rough and load too heavy for wheeled vehicle. I learned about stone boats when following a team of horses across a field that grew mostly rocks instead of corn. My job was to pick up those rocks to and onto the stoneboat being dragged by the horse so as to make room for the crop that would grow over the next winter. And that is the extent of my experiences with boat building. :
Tinker
Def: A stone boat is a flat conveyance that farmers (and in my case, masons) use to drag loads of stone over ground. It was used when a conveyence with wheels was not available, the wagon would be too high for lift heavy rocks up on to, or the ground was too rough and load too heavy for wheeled vehicle. I learned about stone boats when following a team of horses across a field that grew mostly rocks instead of corn. My job was to pick up those rocks to and onto the stoneboat being dragged by the horse so as to make room for the crop that would grow over the next winter. And that is the extent of my experiences with boat building. :
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@Tinker....
Ever read 'Pillars of the Earth'.... Great read if you haven't....
I reckon in another life I was a mason.... I can't tell you the amount of time I've pondered a grand flying buttress or a groin vault...
I am totally in awe of the absolute art and skill of a good mason...
I have many fond memories of trips to Tasmania and looking over the convict built bridges, buildings, structures, etc....
That pales to insignificance when you consider European castles and Monastries which can be hundreds or thousands of years old.... And that all Pales when you mention the word 'Pyramid'. Stones, hundreds of tonnes each hewn and set dry to a tolerance that joints are better than tissue paper thin exact...
It takes a good eye to read the grain of say a curly Maple.... But to take a roughed out lump of sandstone and read the grain of stone... Or Even if it takes a 'drift' to ring a lump of Basalt.... Well that is just plain freaky.....
Anyway, I've managed to take this thread to places the OP probly never dreamed of, so goodnight... And don't forget to read 'Pillars of the Earth'....
Ever read 'Pillars of the Earth'.... Great read if you haven't....
I reckon in another life I was a mason.... I can't tell you the amount of time I've pondered a grand flying buttress or a groin vault...
I am totally in awe of the absolute art and skill of a good mason...
I have many fond memories of trips to Tasmania and looking over the convict built bridges, buildings, structures, etc....
That pales to insignificance when you consider European castles and Monastries which can be hundreds or thousands of years old.... And that all Pales when you mention the word 'Pyramid'. Stones, hundreds of tonnes each hewn and set dry to a tolerance that joints are better than tissue paper thin exact...
It takes a good eye to read the grain of say a curly Maple.... But to take a roughed out lump of sandstone and read the grain of stone... Or Even if it takes a 'drift' to ring a lump of Basalt.... Well that is just plain freaky.....
Anyway, I've managed to take this thread to places the OP probly never dreamed of, so goodnight... And don't forget to read 'Pillars of the Earth'....
Andy, I'm not a sailing man but I do respect those that do. I love looking at pics of boat builds so I look forward to seing this project come along.
Norfolk, any more pics of the boats you guys work on. That last pic was stunning. A good friend & customer of mine was the chief engineer or MY 777 for 8 years untill it was sold. Some boat !
Most of those mega yachts are better fitted out than any house or hotel.
Norfolk, any more pics of the boats you guys work on. That last pic was stunning. A good friend & customer of mine was the chief engineer or MY 777 for 8 years untill it was sold. Some boat !
Most of those mega yachts are better fitted out than any house or hotel.
