What to buy next?
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cliffp said:
I am new to the Green Kool-Aid as well. I think you've got the system part down from others. It also appears that you have the combo/ package part down. Example TS55 and vacuum or MFT. I noticed you said you bought a 1400 rail. IF you bought it within the last 30 days consider exchanging it for the FS 1400/2-LR 32 Guide Rail. You can use this rail just like the regular 1400mm rail. The advantage is you can use is as part of the LR 32 system as well. You appear to be very close to having a full cabinet makers set-up. I am hoping to make the LR 2424 rail my next purchase. I want a 2700mm or 3000mm rail for full sheets of plywood, but I am thinking I can join one of my small rails with the 2424mm rail and still have the benefit of a rail that would allow me to make a larger cabinet with shelf pins using the LR system.
http://www.festoolusa.com/products/routers/hole-drilling-system/32-mm-hole-drilling-guide-rail-55-1400-mm-496939.html
http://www.festoolusa.com/products/routers/hole-drilling-system/lr-32-hole-drilling-set-in-systainer-584100.html
http://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/lr32_tutorial.pdf
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For me Festool is about their sanders with a complement of a CT. If one does not have those they are missing the best part of Festool. I love the guys that say I'll just use a shop vac and save the money, HUGE mistake! The CT's and sanders are Festool for me.
Again, for me personally and if I had to start from sctratch the first things I would get would be the ETS 150/3 and a CT followed by an RO 150. Everyone sands.
Then I would get the routers. Then the Track saw. Depending on how one works and what they make maybe the track saw should be before the routers. But the sanders and CT are the best part of the Festool system, if you don't have those I would get them ASAP!
Of course I would toss a MFT/3 in there soon after and some clamps.
I even use the MFT Festool hole layout on my CNC.
Again, for me personally and if I had to start from sctratch the first things I would get would be the ETS 150/3 and a CT followed by an RO 150. Everyone sands.
Then I would get the routers. Then the Track saw. Depending on how one works and what they make maybe the track saw should be before the routers. But the sanders and CT are the best part of the Festool system, if you don't have those I would get them ASAP!
Of course I would toss a MFT/3 in there soon after and some clamps.
I even use the MFT Festool hole layout on my CNC.
Dovetail65 said:For me Festool is about their sanders with a complement of a CT. If one does not have those they are missing the best part of Festool. I love the guys that say I'll just use a shop vac and save the money, HUGE mistake! The CT's and sanders are Festool for me.
Again, for me personally and if I had to start from sctratch the first things I would get would be the ETS 150/3 and a CT followed by an RO 150. Everyone sands.
Then I would get the routers. Then the Track saw. Depending on how one works and what they make maybe the track saw should be before the routers. But the sanders and CT are the best part of the Festool system, if you don't have those I would get them ASAP!
Of course I would toss a MFT/3 in there soon after and some clamps.
I even use the MFT Festool hole layout on my CNC.
I also started with a sander as my first Festool purchase. It was a RO 150 and a Midi vac package. The next was the TS-55 and the MFT. The Rotex 150 is currently my only sander. I had a 5" Ridgid sander, but gave it away because I never picked it up again. I love that I can go from rough sanding to polish with it. I also love the sanding blocks that hold the RO 150 abrasives. I am looking forward to purchasing a couple of other sanders in the future. Mostly for fine sanding and flattening stock. I know where to come for advice now. I have made mostly blind purchases in the past. This thread alone has been very enlightening.
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@ FOGNewbie, I am just outside the 30 day period and I've also cut through the splinter guard as you do when first using the saw so I doubt they would exchange it anyway. It is a good idea though I don't think I do enough woodworking to need the LR32 set. For the amount of times I would need to drill rows of holes, I guess I could do it manually. I can see that there would be an advantage in time saved and in not marking the wood with pencil lines/marks and drilling in exactly the correct place and perpendicularly.
Have you bought a Domino or do you make do with a router for loose tenon joints? I am thinking of buying the Domino next (before the MFT/3)
@Dovetail65 I will buy a sander for sure (it might be my reward for actually building something!). I do have a CT Midi (I got this thanks to the great advice on this forum) and could not imagine being without it. I spent a couple of hours playing with my new OF1400 (what an awesome machine) and hardly created a speck of dust.
Have you bought a Domino or do you make do with a router for loose tenon joints? I am thinking of buying the Domino next (before the MFT/3)
@Dovetail65 I will buy a sander for sure (it might be my reward for actually building something!). I do have a CT Midi (I got this thanks to the great advice on this forum) and could not imagine being without it. I spent a couple of hours playing with my new OF1400 (what an awesome machine) and hardly created a speck of dust.
I just bought the Domino and my first post on this forum was in regards to that and the tenon joiner stops which you can find out more about at http://www.dominoguide.comcliffp said:
I am too new to the Domino to go into great detail, but I am excited about the possibilities. I am going to Festool training this month, so hopefully I can pass on more info to you. I will say this. I've yet to meet a person that has disliked the Domino joiner. There may be a learning curve for us novices, but I am up for this challenge. I'm thinking my Kreg jig may not see as much use.
BTW I love my OF 1400! That is what prompted me to look into the LR 32 system. I've watched someone using the Festool system go from a Home improvement store 4' x 8' sheet of 3/4" ply to a fully functional cabinet in less than two hours all while teaching and answering questions Using the OF 1010 w/ the LR 32 system and the MFK 700 a MFT, and TS - 55 plus the Domino jointer. For clarity, the LR 32 rail is for indexing. You don't actually drill the holes through the holes in the rail. Look up Brice Burrell and Jerry work. They have many creative uses for the tools you are interested in.
I am really loving this forum!
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Ah - it is my turn now Sancho....
On the face of it you might think it would be a good idea to get your hands on one of these but if you are strapped (UK expression for being broke) then get one another time or on second thoughts you could speak to Sancho or me and borrow one of (h)ours but they are very small - yes they are minute!
Your turn Sancho. [wink]
Peter
sancho57 said:
On the face of it you might think it would be a good idea to get your hands on one of these but if you are strapped (UK expression for being broke) then get one another time or on second thoughts you could speak to Sancho or me and borrow one of (h)ours but they are very small - yes they are minute!
Your turn Sancho. [wink]
Peter
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cliffp welcome, before you invest any more money into your newly acquired taste for the green and blue i am supprised no one from the UK has not mentioned the £50. money off vouchers that are out there for tools , you can use them on individual tool purchases with no maximum of vouchers you can use so you could save ££££ on your next purchases , i think they are valid until end of September , try warrens link on this site and you will understand the offer, just for the record i got hooked years ago on the plunge saws , i will always say buy the best you can afford and you cant go wrong. all the best green. sorry forgot to put this in you have to go to the dealer and sales section on this forum look for £50 voucher promo.
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way to go cliffp, i have many festool products and i never realised how good the mft3 was until i tried to use some b&d workmates on site don't get me wrong the workmates have their uses as do sawhorses but the mft3 is a must if you use it as a cutting station and all of the other functions it can be used for , with the right clamps they are great in my opinion well worth having in your must have list , green.
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I have now ordered an MFT/3 with 2 quick clamps, 2 short screw clamps (the cheaper Festool ones) and the clamping elements plus the guide rail adapter for the OF1400. I had a go at doing a mortise and wasn't very good at it so a Domino is on the shopping list. I also want to buy a sander as a recent diy project has shown the deficiencies of my Bosch Pex400. I am trying to choose between an RO90, RO150 or an ETS150/3. I already have a Fein MM Top plus so have something for detail (also have a Bosch delta sander) so I am tempted to get an RO150. I am sure I'll end up with several in the end.
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cliffp said:
Ironically the RO90, RO150 and ETS150/3 are a perfect combo. They're all different and all complement each other. The RO90 has a massive spread of utility, but not for large flat areas. The RO150 and ETS150/3 are your larger surface area sanders (obviously) ... technically you "could" do most of your work with the RO150, but it's heavy, loud and generally a monster - perfect for coarse work (and great for polishing), while the ETS150/3 is a dream for finer finishing.
Don't ignore the DTS400 ... it's a fav of mine!
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Latest situation is I now have the following:
MFT/3 plus 2 quick clamps, 2 screw clamps and clamping elements
TS55R plus 1400 rail
CT Midi
T15+3 set
Centrotec set
OF1400 plus guide rail adapter
RO150
Domino 500 on order
I have two more vouchers. What should I get? I am toying with a CMS basic plus router insert or a second sander (RO90 or DTS400) plus a syslite. Any suggestions?
MFT/3 plus 2 quick clamps, 2 screw clamps and clamping elements
TS55R plus 1400 rail
CT Midi
T15+3 set
Centrotec set
OF1400 plus guide rail adapter
RO150
Domino 500 on order
I have two more vouchers. What should I get? I am toying with a CMS basic plus router insert or a second sander (RO90 or DTS400) plus a syslite. Any suggestions?
