When did this happen?

[ben_r_]

Wow... yet another example that makes me glad I never bought into the Centrotec system.

 

[MGB]

Wow... yet another example that makes me glad I never bought into the Centrotec system.

Ehh, I've got all I need

#1/#2 robbies
#2 Philips
#2 Pozidrive

So not too painful considering they're very nice long lasting bits. The dealer was trying to push an installers kit on me, screw that (pun intended).

 

[miles2212]

I ordered mine on Sunday from Kelvin Power Tools in Scotland and it turned up yesterday.

 

[Gregor]

I think deploying an attic lid onto the systainer with the drill (to hold spares, possibly in the bit holders that fit there) and having the most needed bit types at hand on the magnet holder of the tool is superior - and cheaper.

 

[Mario Turcot]

I think deploying an attic lid onto the systainer with the drill (to hold spares, possibly in the bit holders that fit there) and having the most needed bit types at hand on the magnet holder of the tool is superior - and cheaper.

You just gave away the next marketing strategy  [eek]

Mario

 

[grobkuschelig]

Street Price in Germany is 85€ for the Sys-mini CE.
But I also think that the lid inserts are better Value.

If someone made 50mm centrotecs as a good set, that would be nice.
But even with the mini, you only get one each of the 50mm, which makes it not worth it, from my point of view..

 

[Bob D.]

$185?! Surely there must be some more accessories hiding underneath that top level.

Yes, the rest is filled with special FT N2 anti-oxidizing gas.  [wink]
But once you open the case it will escape.  [eek]
Replacement gas is available at reasonable (as FT goes) prices.  [big grin]

 

[Trosey]

$185?! Surely there must be some more accessories hiding underneath that top level.

Yes, the rest is filled with special FT N2 anti-oxidizing gas.  [wink]
But once you open the case it will escape.  [eek]
Replacement gas is available at reasonable (as FT goes) prices.  [big grin]

HF cosmoline gas comes with a lifetime odor.

HTH

 

[leakyroof]

$185?! Surely there must be some more accessories hiding underneath that top level.

Yes, the rest is filled with special FT N2 anti-oxidizing gas.  [wink]
But once you open the case it will escape.  [eek]
Replacement gas is available at reasonable (as FT goes) prices.  [big grin]

HF cosmoline gas comes with a lifetime odor.

HTH

. Only a TRUE Harbor Freight shopper would know this.... [poke]
It IS a distinctive smell, isn’t it.... [wink]

 

[yetihunter]

Street Price in Germany is 85€ for the Sys-mini CE.
But I also think that the lid inserts are better Value.

If someone made 50mm centrotecs as a good set, that would be nice.
But even with the mini, you only get one each of the 50mm, which makes it not worth it, from my point of view..

They used to sell the stubbies in a lid insert.  At least a Protool version.
Mine deformed after one or two uses though.  They were the old gold colored version with a hardness similar to clay or pewter.  To be honest, 75mm ones would be my cats meow.  100 is usually too long and using the 50's, I concede: just a little too short.  Call the doctor, I've got a goldilocks disorder.

These sets are getting tiresome.  Surely it can't be cost effective to order small lots of this and that.  Shout out to Atlas Machinery and Snappy for preventing me from having to buy a whole kit just for a pair of Robertson bits.

 

[six-point socket II]

The 50mm CE bits will be available in sets of two as spares - just like it should be with consumables.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Coen]

Shame of that lousy non-locking bitholder in the set.

Are the Festool gray bits still as lousy as 8 years ago, or did they improve? Their gold colored bits were nice (discountinued now), the gray ones... The fit on the PZ bits was horrible.

 

[six-point socket II]

When that set was originally released it was either the non-locking, or the (troubled) old style locking bit holder. The BHS 60 wasn't available at that time.

I can't complain about the Festool bits (50 and 100 mm CE) - and I can actually compare them to PB Swiss equivalents.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[AlexThePalex]

Shame of that lousy non-locking bitholder in the set.

Are the Festool gray bits still as lousy as 8 years ago, or did they improve? Their gold colored bits were nice (discountinued now), the gray ones... The fit on the PZ bits was horrible.

I prefer the non-locking bitholders, especially the long 150 mm one is used a lot here. I don't like the old locking bitholder at all. Haven't had the chance to try the new one yet.

What's wrong with the silver bits? Haven't had the chance to try them yet either. I keep running into cheap offers for the gold 100 mm bits so I've been buying those.

 

[FestitaMakool]

I’d like a 50mm set, but why does FT ignore hex bits and a few slotted? ..amongst other.. [mad]
I’ve got a set of the longer ones, but keep reaching for my older sets as these cover all screws.

So, the standard bit holder, both the BH 60 and the magnetic only is the most used. I’d surely like longer bits for better reach in deep holes and so forth. There the Centrotec would be my favourite instead of using long reach standard bit holders.

 

[six-point socket II]

Festool is ahead of time. Not too soon from now, only oldtimers like us will even know what a slotted screw is - and how it is used. lol.

Speaking of hex, I've wondered about that as well. But I guess, it's because its inseparably linked to large scale production furniture, instead of artisanal/ handcrafted furniture.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[AlexThePalex]

Festool is ahead of time. Not too soon from now, only oldtimers like us will even know what a slotted screw is - and how it is used. lol.

Hmm, if you work on older houses and furniture you constantly find those older fasteners. It will take centuries before those are all gone. In the mean time, we will need those dirty rotten old slotted bits and it is very short sighted of Festool to think torx is the only thing that matters now.

On an average workday I can use 4 different types of bits (PZ, PH, Tor, Slot) in various sizes, and I all need them at hand in centrotec.

 

[six-point socket II]

Please read the language of smileys correctly.  [tongue]  [big grin]

I know exactly what it's like to take a kitchen apart with 5, 6 maybe 8 different types of fasteners/screws used - sometimes on one cabinet. You won't meet me without an assortment of slotted, hex, square, PH, PZ, TX, +- (combination type) bits ...

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[bertv]

Slotted screws and powered screwdrivers are not a great combo. Maybe Festool tries to keep our language while (un)screwing clean…

 

[FestitaMakool]

Yup, and I wonder how many installers, fitters that do not fit pre-fabricated furniture and cabinets.. every week [huh] Even as Alex says, coming cross when dismantling.
For many visible screws, the slotted and sometimes hex looks better. Most brass screws looks best with slotted head. These heads benefit from the sure fit of Centrotec.. so come on Festool!