when will the TS55 return ?

[Slappy]

new here , signed up to find out what was going on with this tool , I want to buy one .
but it's listed as outta stock everywhere
there is one on FleaBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221269266729?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
but is one a tool with issues ?
Now before anyone starts telling me buying used tools is a bad idea or it might be stolen Or there is no warranty .
I AM NOT thinking of buying this Tool , I buy only NEW tools from authorized dealers only .

I have a Dominio & I love it  ( I got mine from " Tools For Working Wood " outta NYC  , Great service BTW) I buy outta state cause the Cali Governor gets enough of my money already.
The TS75 while it does cut deeper ,the bulk worries me , As I build speaker cabinets the extra depth is not needed  
what is needed is repeatable precise cuts on thin stocks like 1/2 baltic birch  needed are glueable ,chipfree cuts as well as angled cuts up to a inch thick material
what has drawn me to the TS55 is being able to do work that would other wise require me to buy a huge table saw (I refuse to use a small contractor size =-> I like my fingers )
my home workshop floor space is at a premium  & I build huge speakers . A large Table saw is not in the picture
having a lumber yard rip my panel to width is/has been a disaster , wastes $$ & i have to play catch-up fixing the differences in their cuts .
so what up  with this saw ?

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

Welcome to the forum.

Festool has notified the CPSC of a potential problem with the plunge mechanism on some TS 55 REQ Plunge-Cut Track Saws.  While investigation is continuing, Festool, in cooperation with the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), intends to recall affected units.  If you have a TS 55 REQ Plunge Cut Track Saw, please discontinue use immediately and call Festool directly at 1-855-784-9727.  Festool will provide further information as it becomes available.

There's currently no additional information to share at this time. We are awaiting guidance from the CPSC on the matter.

You may want to check out this thread for more commentary on the topic.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/venting-on-a-company's-forum

For what it's worth, the saw you linked to on eBay is the TS 55 EQ, which is not affected.

Shane Holland
Festool USA

 

[Slappy]

so the newer saw is a better saw than that Flaebay saw ?  OF course once this issues have been solved ?
I can wait , that I needed the the saw today is not the issue my desire is that the saw will be needed coming this spring .
I am just planning a tool-up phase this winter so that I all ready to go come spring .
I guess I'm asking will the TS55 new ever return ?
I assume that the new TS55 is better than the older stuff & I would  want a new one anyway .

 

[copcarcollector]

Here are some of the improvements on the 55 REQ saw

Flat housing for flush-cutting
With a flat housing offset to ½”, you’ll make straight cuts perfectly parallel to any edge, further increasing your range of applications with the TS 55 REQ.

Easy-to-read, dual-depth scale
The large, readable scale indicates depth setting, for cuts on or off the guide rail. Included in the kit is also a self-adhering Imperial scale.

Micro-adjustable depth control
An integrated micro-adjust knob enables precise depth adjustment, so the depth of cut can be fine tuned.

Better dust control
The dust channel has an improved design that further enhances dust extraction efficiency.

Greater bevel range
This saw has positive stops at 0 and 45 degrees plus a detent-override that extends the bevel range from -1 to 47 degrees.

Improved Riving Knife
The riving knife now emerges before the saw blade for easier positioning in existing cuts lines.

Streamlined Splinterguard
The splinter guard also has an improved design.

 

[ccarrolladams]

[welcome] to The FOG, Slappy,

Many of us started using Festools because it is a system. Long ago I wanted to return to cabinet building before I invested in another shop space. Instead of using large fixed saws I purchased a TS55EQ and a CT22 dust extractor, along with clamps and several guide rails. Soon My first TS55EQ was joined by another, as well as Festool sanders and routers.

Since 2006 using the stock 48 tooth fine blade my TS55EQs have made glue-ready cuts in top-quality plywood as accurately as I can place those guide rails. With the parallel guide and extension system consistently accurate ripping can be as fast as using a large sliding table saw. The MFT/3 set allows cross-cuts to be made as accurately as with most large table saws and in some cases in less time.

Now comes the sad news. A couple of years ago Festool introduced an updated version, the TS55REQ, in most markets outside North America. Earlier in 2013 the TS55REQ was released in the USA and Canada. At that time Festool USA discontinued the TS55EQ, although dealers were allowed to sell off remaining inventory of the TS55.

Things were going so well. Then in an abundance of caution Festool USA announced there is a safety issue with the TS55REQ manufactured for North America. Owners are advised to discontinue use of their new TS55REQ and contact Festool USA Service Department to discuss options. Needless to say, this has caused TS55EQ to be even more valuable. Good luck finding dealers with TS55EQ left in stock. Used TS55 are in heavy demand at high prices.

Of course all these issues with the TS55REQ will be resolved, but just when that will be is not clear. Just today Shane Holland, the official spokesperson for Festool USA discussed this in another FOG thread. For various legal reasons this is an issue which must be discussed discreetly and without wild speculation. Meanwhile we can only wait and make use of our TS55s.

 

[copcarcollector]

Good luck finding dealers with TS55EQ left in stock.

IF anyone is looking for the earlier TS55EQ, Bob Marino and CPO still list them as in stock.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

I guess I'm asking will the TS55 new ever return ?

The expectation is that the TS 55 REQ will be available for purchase again once the CSPC has approved its release and a fix for affected saws.

 

[fidelfs]

Will the return saws that people exchange for a 75 come back as recon tools? 

 

[Slappy]

Here are some of the improvements on the 55 REQ saw

Flat housing for flush-cutting
With a flat housing offset to ½”, you’ll make straight cuts perfectly parallel to any edge, further increasing your range of applications with the TS 55 REQ.

Easy-to-read, dual-depth scale
The large, readable scale indicates depth setting, for cuts on or off the guide rail. Included in the kit is also a self-adhering Imperial scale.

Micro-adjustable depth control
An integrated micro-adjust knob enables precise depth adjustment, so the depth of cut can be fine tuned.

Better dust control
The dust channel has an improved design that further enhances dust extraction efficiency.

Greater bevel range
This saw has positive stops at 0 and 45 degrees plus a detent-override that extends the bevel range from -1 to 47 degrees.

Improved Riving Knife
The riving knife now emerges before the saw blade for easier positioning in existing cuts lines.

Streamlined Splinterguard
The splinter guard also has an improved design.

? are all the above benefits/refinements/improvements also on the  TS75 that is now being sold  ?  ?  
When I reach the point of actually needing  the saw if the TS55 hasn't returned then  I'd look at the TS75  it's a either or thing due the tracks being different .
i don't want to put these projects off any later than that as I've put them off as of now . I look at late winter/early spring as the start of buying the panel stock,tooling up .
Once that starts I can only go with one or the other saw .

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

The reconditioned tool program ends on August 30. I don't have any information to share at this time about the potential for the REQs that are returned being sold as recons.

 

[fidelfs]

Well, it is just wishful thinking for a recon ts 55 req. 

 

[peter halle]

Slappy,

First  [welcome] to the Forum.  I might have misunderstood something you wrote, but the tracks are the same for the TS-75 and the TS-55's.

Peter

 

[Slappy]

OK, then I am confused as I have read posts about some owners are not moving up the TS75 in a current swap offer due to not being offered the return of  the tracks ?  edit; I guess you're not gonna open that can-o'-worms.
So your saying all the tracks fit each saw ?
It's seems (and this just might be me) that what comes with the basic TS55 is different than the basic  TS75  ? ? ?

 

[tjbnwi]

The track profile is the same across all track lengths. The LR 32 tracks are the same profile, but with holes for the LR-32 sled to stop in.

The TS 55 comes with a 55 in track, the TS 75 comes with a 75 inch track. The TS 75 will work with the 55" track, you just have to carefully plunge cut the start. If you purchase a TS 75 out rite it will come with the 75" track. Exchange appears to be saw only (from what I read, I do not speak for Festool in any way on this matter).

Tom

 

[Slappy]

The TS 55 comes with a 55 in track, the TS 75 comes with a 75 inch track. The TS 75 will work with the 55" track, you just have to carefully plunge cut the start. If you purchase a TS 75 out rite it will come with the 75" track. Exchange appears to be saw only (from what I read, I do not speak for Festool in any way on this matter).

Tom

ThanX Tom ,
Ok now I know what the issue is then , to someone who never had the tracks &/or the saws in hand & then read these reports Of Issues about tracks ,you see where my cautions are coming from . I remember when I bought my Domino  the sales info was NOT real clear what actually came with the unit , which caused me to buy a accessory at the same time that I didn't need  as it came with the unit anyway .

 

[peter halle]

Thanks Tom for helping out!   Yes, if someone purchases a TS 75 saw the rail included will handle cross cutting 48" sheet goods.

Slappy,  as you think about gearing up tool wise, now matter what saw you end up getting I honestly think you should be also thinking about a additional longer rail to offer flexibility to your manufacturing workflow.  It will allow flexibility in layout and also cutting workflow.

Peter

 

[Slappy]

Thanks Tom for helping out!   Yes, if someone purchases a TS 75 saw the rail included will handle cross cutting 48" sheet goods.

Slappy,  as you think about gearing up tool wise, now matter what saw you end up getting I honestly think you should be also thinking about a additional longer rail to offer flexibility to your manufacturing workflow.  It will allow flexibility in layout and also cutting workflow.

Peter

OH Yeah ,
I'm all in on all the rails I'll be breaking down 4x8  & 5x5 sheets of euro plywood  so i'll get the real long ones local as I don't need UPS or FedEx bending them .

that splicing them together looks like it works but that adjustment & all seems a P I A  but really I'd rather have  all the sizes & not mess with putting them together . lay the track & get to cutting  that's what I find appealing the most .

 

[duburban]

have you looked at the mafelle line of track saws?

 

[Mick013]

Sorry if im a bit behind the times here but i bought a TS55 about a month ago and have just stumbled across this thread. Should i be concerned? I have only used it a couple times and it seems ok. Is there a particular model no that was recalled?

Thanks
Michael

 

[ccarrolladams]

Sorry if im a bit behind the times here but i bought a TS55 about a month ago and have just stumbled across this thread. Should i be concerned? I have only used it a couple times and it seems ok. Is there a particular model no that was recalled?

Thanks
Michael

Any issue involves only 110v Festool TS55REQ manufactured for sale in North America. The TS55EQ is not involved, but was discontinued in North America at the same time the TS55REQ was released.

So, since you are in Oz, rest easy. None of the 230v TS55REQ are involved.