Which best describes you?

[CharlesWilson]

I don't know what I am, so I chose Other. Must be having an identity crisis or something similar.

 

[andy5405]

I'm changing my status to complete numpty after a couple of cockups on site in the last week! Unfortunately no amount of investment in Festool seems to avoid the scenario where you end up repeating the age old saying: "MEASURE TWICE, CUT ONCE". It's fine with a bit of CLS but this was a £160 end panel. What's the other one? "MORE HASTE LESS SPEED"

 

[Vindingo]

It isn't surprising that there are significantly more hobbiests here.  A lot of  "professionals" who have seen my Festools comments at how expensive they are.  They aren't worth it, overpriced, they look like toys... etc.  Its almost as if they value their time less because they do it more?   

Another factor I have heard from other pros, which I have never experienced as an employee or employer, is "my guys abuse my tools."  I don't baby my tools, but if I see a guy with banged up crappy tools or a guy that tosses a saw on the ground after using it, how can I expect he will do top notch work? 

Currently I work alone, so I can control how my tools get treated, but when I had guys work for me I took the time to teach them.

I guess this is a bit like preaching to the choir, if you are here, you "get it."   

 

[Kev]

It isn't surprising that there are significantly more hobbiests here.  A lot of  "professionals" who have seen my Festools comments at how expensive they are.  They aren't worth it, overpriced, they look like toys... etc.  Its almost as if they value their time less because they do it more?   

Another factor I have heard from other pros, which I have never experienced as an employee or employer, is "my guys abuse my tools."  I don't baby my tools, but if I see a guy with banged up crappy tools or a guy that tosses a saw on the ground after using it, how can I expect he will do top notch work? 

Currently I work alone, so I can control how my tools get treated, but when I had guys work for me I took the time to teach them.

I guess this is a bit like preaching to the choir, if you are here, you "get it."   

The magic word you used was "teach".

That's something that isn't happening in the workplace enough these days ... hats of to ya!  [big grin]

 

[andy5405]

It isn't surprising that there are significantly more hobbiests here.  A lot of  "professionals" who have seen my Festools comments at how expensive they are.  They aren't worth it, overpriced, they look like toys... etc.  Its almost as if they value their time less because they do it more?    

Another factor I have heard from other pros, which I have never experienced as an employee or employer, is "my guys abuse my tools."  I don't baby my tools, but if I see a guy with banged up crappy tools or a guy that tosses a saw on the ground after using it, how can I expect he will do top notch work?  

Currently I work alone, so I can control how my tools get treated, but when I had guys work for me I took the time to teach them.

I guess this is a bit like preaching to the choir, if you are here, you "get it."    

I was surprised in some ways that there are more "hobbyists" on here than "professionals". A professional IMO stands to gain far more from owning Festool tools as it directly affects their bottom line. You do have to bear in mind though that there are a lot of really good guys doing really great work who have never even heard of Festool. Most Festool gear is awesome but it is in no way a magic bullet. What makes it awesome is a combination of the tools themselves and the mindset of the person using them. Festool merely enables people who are already thinking "faster, easier, smarter" to take it to another level. The overwhelming majority of time served "tradesmen" that I encounter leave me feeling luke warm at best and they could own every Festool tool in existence and I still wouldn't want to employ them for a tenner a day. I'd take the guy with the right attitude and Ryobi gear every time. I'd then work hard at getting them addicted!

 

[score0matic]

I was surprised in some ways that there are more "hobbyists" on here than "professionals". A professional IMO stands to gain far more from owning Festool tools as it directly affects their bottom line.

Many "pro's" have a system that they go to when ever the task  presents it self.  They know how long it takes and what to bid it at what they dont want are Surprises.  They are not in the Business of testing out tools or tool systems  and they but the cheapest tool to get the job done.... when they want to get a job done FASTER they Hire another guy not buy a boutique tool.