Woodpeckers MFT Square A Beast

[mac west]

My Mft Square arrived today . Wow what a well made tool. You now have a good customer based on the build of this monster. Thanks Woodpeckers!!! Mac

 

[AIPDX]

I've had the same impression when I got mine. A very useful tool, and a hook to store it hanging off the side of the MFT/3 was am unexpected bonus. Finally, no more struggles when aligning the MFT/3. Right size, right thickness to make this job easy. It was not a cheap one-time tool, but what can you do - neither is MFT/3. Big thanks to Woodpeckers!

 

[Just F Me]

are they still selling this?!  I just checked their site and it says shipping June 2015...

 

[rizzoa13]

My only gripe is that the 2 legs don't meet each other at the corner. I grabbed it instead of my framing square to lay out a skirt board for some very uneven stringers and I couldn't mark all the way to the corners. Maybe there's a reason but I couldn't figure it out.

 

[Sparktrician]

A couple of things I really like about this square:

• It's tall enough to square the MFT rail to the fence without lowering the rail, and
• It's zero is adjustable, just in case the user drops it or otherwise accidentally changes the zero.

Please note, price was not included in this list, nor was waiting six months for delivery.  That aside, the quality is quite evident in this device.

 

[Cheese]

[thumbs up] I'm glad we're finally getting some feedback on the MFT Square.  [thumbs up]

Back 5 or 6 months ago, every naysayer in the world weighed in on a previous MFT Square discussion and it was all conjecture, finally we're getting some real-time input from some square owners. Positive or negative, that's a good thing.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/other-tools-accessories/woodpeckers-new-mft-square/60/

I don't own an MFT so I didn't purchase this Woodpeckers OTT.

Just curious though, if it did get bumped and was no longer 90 degrees, what would you use to recalibrate it? Seems like you'd also have to own their 26" x 16" OTT framing square for maximum precision.

 

[jlt23]

Glad the positive reviews. I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered.

 

[Greg M]

WOW, amazing they can get out the square but can't supply the other OTT's that were promised before the square ever went up for order!

 

[teocaf]

WOW, amazing they can get out the square but can't supply the other OTT's that were promised before the square ever went up for order!

I would imagine different products run on different production lines, not to mention different number of steps in getting them made.  Other variables as well, like perhaps a batch of a certain product had to be sent back and reworked because of quality issues.  That's about as simply as I am able to explain it.  It seems to me that every time a woodpecker thread comes up, no matter what the product is, you take the chance to somehow vociferate about your backorder.  We get it, you're disappointed.  We also understand that you can post whatever you feel.  A thinking person might realize that voicing your comments directly to the manufacturer might be the most efficient route to solving your situation.  It might not be as much fun as trying to poison everyone about this brand, but to each his own.

Good to hear the feedback on this particular mft square--I like the design elements with the combination of materials and I was considering it as well when it first came up but had some of the same questions.  I'm pretty sure it will come up for sale again.

 

[Greg M]

WOW, amazing they can get out the square but can't supply the other OTT's that were promised before the square ever went up for order!

I would imagine different products run on different production lines, not to mention different number of steps in getting them made.  Other variables as well, like perhaps a batch of a certain product had to be sent back and reworked because of quality issues.  That's about as simply as I am able to explain it.  It seems to me that every time a woodpecker thread comes up, no matter what the product is, you take the chance to somehow vociferate about your backorder.  We get it, you're disappointed.  We also understand that you can post whatever you feel.  A thinking person might realize that voicing your comments directly to the manufacturer might be the most efficient route to solving your situation.  It might not be as much fun as trying to poison everyone about this brand, but to each his own.

Seems to me that any time I post something on this site you have some petty remark in response.  Why don't you get over your anger about my Harbor Freight posts?

I've never questioned Woodpeckers quality.  I have quite a few Woodpeckers tools and they are great.  It's their inability to deliver in a timely manner that's the problem.

 

[Cheese]

[member=2205]teocaf[/member]
Just adding to your answer, I could also see that quantities sold could effect deliverables. First off you have to own an MFT before you'd even think of purchasing this square, that immediately limits the market. So maybe they sold 100-200 of these items where as anyone that needs a ruler could order the Paolini rule, so they sell 10x that amount or more. Both go to manufacturing on the same day, but it takes less time to produce 100 items than 1000 items. One gets delivered before the other. [2cents]

 

[Greg M]

[member=2205]teocaf[/member]
Just adding to your answer, I could also see that quantities sold could effect deliverables. First off you have to own an MFT before you'd even think of purchasing this square, that immediately limits the market. So maybe they sold 100-200 of these items where as anyone that needs a ruler could order the Paolini rule, so they sell 10x that amount or more. Both go to manufacturing on the same day, but it takes less time to produce 100 items than 1000 items. One gets delivered before the other. [2cents]

With the square I can see that.  How many people move their MFT that often that they would need a tool like this?

 

[Sparktrician]

Just curious though, if it did get bumped and was no longer 90 degrees, what would you use to recalibrate it? Seems like you'd also have to own their 26" x 16" OTT framing square for maximum precision.

They supply a set of realignment instructions with it.  You're correct that you'll need a reference square to work from.  If you look at the photos, there are two stainless steel pins; one on each leg.  There are the pivots.  There are three black in-hex screws on each leg.  These are loosened slightly, then a small setscrew that you can't see is used to bring the square back into alignment (with a reference square).  Then the hex screws are tightened to lock the angle. 

 

[Sparktrician]

[member=2205]teocaf[/member]
Just adding to your answer, I could also see that quantities sold could effect deliverables. First off you have to own an MFT before you'd even think of purchasing this square, that immediately limits the market. So maybe they sold 100-200 of these items where as anyone that needs a ruler could order the Paolini rule, so they sell 10x that amount or more. Both go to manufacturing on the same day, but it takes less time to produce 100 items than 1000 items. One gets delivered before the other. [2cents]

With the square I can see that.  How many people move their MFT that often that they would need a tool like this?

I don't think it's the act of moving the MFT that causes a need to recalibrate.  The fence does tend to go out a little over time and with usage, even when the end is clamped to the end extrusion.  I personally prefer to square the fence to the grid using Qwas Dogs, then square the rail to the fence.  I'm also finding that this same square is pretty nice for squaring the CMS' fence to the sliding table's fence.  I see several other possible uses, too, none of which I've tried yet. 

 

[teocaf]

WOW, amazing they can get out the square but can't supply the other OTT's that were promised before the square ever went up for order!

I would imagine different products run on different production lines, not to mention different number of steps in getting them made.  Other variables as well, like perhaps a batch of a certain product had to be sent back and reworked because of quality issues.  That's about as simply as I am able to explain it.  It seems to me that every time a woodpecker thread comes up, no matter what the product is, you take the chance to somehow vociferate about your backorder.  We get it, you're disappointed.  We also understand that you can post whatever you feel.  A thinking person might realize that voicing your comments directly to the manufacturer might be the most efficient route to solving your situation.  It might not be as much fun as trying to poison everyone about this brand, but to each his own.

Seems to me that any time I post something on this site you have some petty remark in response.  Why don't you get over your anger about my Harbor Freight posts?

I've never questioned Woodpeckers quality.  I have quite a few Woodpeckers tools and they are great.  It's their inability to deliver in a timely manner that's the problem.

I see nothing "petty" about it, although I realize we may each define certain words differently.  I thought it was a well-crafted, factual response that made accurate points.  As far as your fetish with HF is concerned, that does not anger me one bit.  In fact, I don't even feel bad about others that share your affliction.  I do find it hilarious that I get on a forum such as this, dedicated to owners of great tools and find someone repeatedly extolling the virtues of HF.  The fact that you're bringing HF up again on here just adds to the comedy.  Thanks for the chuckle today; this oppressive heat was getting me down...

As for your other point about woodpeckers, your position has been crystal clear the first fifteen times you stated it--I don't think we're that far apart on language for me to get that.  But I will repeat what I said in my "petty" post in case you did not read it all the way through:  it is more efficient to take your problem with them DIRECTLY to them, as opposed to just posting vitriol on EVERY woodpecker thread that comes along.

 

[Jozsef Kozma]

I wish I could get one

 

[Greg M]

I wish I could get one

Search for the threads that appeared when this was offered for sale.  You'll find many suggestions on how to accurately align your MFT without using this square.  I'm not suggesting that the square isn't useful or desired but since you can't order one now other methods might help.

I have also read about people contacting WP about getting a OTT when it's shipping and getting on a list for returned items or cancelled orders.  You might get lucky.

 

[Jozsef Kozma]

I was brain dead back then not ordering
And yes I will contact them or look for alternatives
It is hot ,still not thinking straight
Suggestions welcome

 

[Cheese]

I wish I could get one

Give them a call tomorrow, they may have extras, people have financial and personal issues. A lot can happen over a 6 month time span. I managed to cash in once on one of their OTT.  [big grin]

 

[Jozsef Kozma]

Thanks