Woodpeckers Saddle T-Square one time tool that ended Mar. 21

[Ken Nagrod]

To all those people that ordered one of these saddle T-squares from Woodpeckers, there will be a change to the combination inch/metric models.  I just got done with a discussion of the design on that model with owner Richard Hummel.  I told him it should have inch markings on the one outer edge and metric on the other along with inch and metric inside the body area.  On their website it showed inch and metric within the body area and only metric on both outer edges.  Richard said this will be changed.  I hope so.

Just for full disclosure.  I am not associated with this company either.  I am just a customer of theirs for a while now.  I guess I'm kinda hooked on their products like I am Festool.  Richard makes some really great tools.

 

[PeterK]

I have the earlier version from a couple months ago in both metric and imperial and use them frequently. Nice product.

My most used Woodpecker product lately has been the now discontinued 18" Precision Carpenters Square. It is fantastic for checking the MFT fences, cabinet squaring, so many other tasks. They had a 12" version also but both are now discontinued.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

I have the earlier version from a couple months ago in both metric and imperial and use them frequently. Nice product.

Peter, I think you're referring to the imperial and metric T-squares that were November's one-time tool run?  I have those and I like them too, but this new saddle T-square seems like it would replace both in one tool, plus have the added benefit of the saddle's side marking feature.

 

[PeterK]

Yep you are correct Ken. Guess since I have some Lee Valley saddle squares that I just didn't see the benefit of the newer Saddle T-Square for my usage. A combination version like you are referring to might just be the perfect answer although I do like the wider reference face for squaring of the older T-square they made.

 

[NuggyBuggy]

I told him it should have inch markings on the one outer edge and metric on the other along with inch and metric inside the body area.

Ken - I didn't study the picture closely, but I assumed that they were be exactly as you described above.  Was the depiction an oversight or was that the design they originally intended ?

If the latter, thanks for catching it !
- terry

 

[Ken Nagrod]

The picture was the way it was originally designed.  That's what threw me.  I couldn't understand why he would have it that way.  I'm guessing it was an oversight in the original design phase.  As long as the end result is what Richard and I talked about, I'm happy.

 

[semenza]

Hi,

I was picturing it as you describe Ken. I think both ways have + / -.  Granted you would not have been able to measure with Metric on the outside edge in the original design, but with inch on one side and metric on the other, positioning the square in some situations will not work out. ie; having access to only one edge of what is being marked will prevent flipping it to the other board edge to get the proper scale in the right place.

I did order the 6" combo, but I think seperate versions of metric and inch would be better. I suspect, based on the way the One Time Run and other offerings have  come along, that there is not enough interest in metric to make them stand alone product offers.

My real problem is that I want to buy all of them and can't do it all at once.  Since they are one time runs, I will be watching Ebay and classifieds in the future.

Seth

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Hi,

I was picturing it as you describe Ken. I think both ways have + / -.  Granted you would not have been able to measure with Metric on the outside edge in the original design, but with inch on one side and metric on the other, positioning the square in some situations will not work out. ie; having access to only one edge of what is being marked will prevent flipping it to the other board edge to get the proper scale in the right place.

Seth, the original design did have metric on both outer edges.  
I don't see how flipping the square to the other side would prevent you from lining up the same edge unless you're at the very end of a board.

Woodpeckers Saddle T Square.wmv

 

[semenza]

Hi,

I was picturing it as you describe Ken. I think both ways have + / -.  Granted you would not have been able to measure with Metric on the outside edge in the original design, but with inch on one side and metric on the other, positioning the square in some situations will not work out. ie; having access to only one edge of what is being marked will prevent flipping it to the other board edge to get the proper scale in the right place.

Seth, the original design did have metric on both outer edges.  
I don't see how flipping the square to the other side would prevent you from lining up the same edge unless you're at the very end of a board.

Right with the original design you could measure with the same scale from either side of the square. With different scales you can't. 

Yes, end of the board would be the situation. Not saying its a big deal just looking for the pros and cons.

Seth

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Seth,

Should I ask Richard to keep one in its original design just for you?  [big grin]  You'll have to trade me some systainers of course.  [wink]

 

[NuggyBuggy]

I was going to order one metric and one imperial, but for some reason adding an  extra piece on top of my order would send shipping costs over the moon, so I settled for the combo.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

So I got my saddle square in the mail today.  Nice (at least for me) to see the change I had suggested.  The mechanical pencil was only an extra $1.  Should have bought a bunch at that price.  Anybody else get theirs?

 

[peter halle]

Mine came today also.  My first Woodpecker's purchase, although I own a Pinnacle metric story stick.  I am torn between the large square (metric) or waiting to place an order for the soon to be announced Bridge City folding saws.

Nice piece of work!

Peter

 

[RONWEN]

So I got my saddle square in the mail today.  Nice (at least for me) to see the change I had suggested.  The mechanical pencil was only an extra $1.  Should have bought a bunch at that price.  Anybody else get theirs?

Yes, I got mine (plus several pencils) -- I forget what your suggestion was but I really like being able to mark a face and edge without moving the square. Much better design than the first version they came out with.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Peter,

I got the Woodpeckers 900mm story stick.  Same thing.  Haven't even taken it out of the tube yet.  [big grin]

Ron,

My suggestion was to put the metric scale on the outside face on one side and imperial on the other outside face while keeping the imperial and metric inner.  The pre-production version only had the metric on both outer faces with imperial and metric inside.

 

[peter halle]

Ken / Ron - pencils are 5mm or 7mm?  Use mechanical pencils often?

Just thinking.

Peter

 

[davee]

The pencils are 0.7mm, however the t-square also works with the 0.9mm which doesn't break quite so easily.  The T-square is very nice - mine came today as well.

 

[Ken Nagrod]

Peter,

I measured it and it's 0.7mm although it doesn't say on them.  I know Gary Katz prefers the 0.9mm leads which are less likely to break, yet still give a sharp line.

 

[peter halle]

Thanks guys!  I have the original Incra rule set and that used 5 mm pencils.  The images looked similar on the pencils.

You know me and my fingers went active and I was thinking ...HMMM...

I always use regular #2 pencils or mechanical pencils and prefer the .7 mm.  I don't use carpenter pencils.

Peter

 

[GPowers]

I missed this one time Woodpecker tool. Should have bought one.