100 Jahre Limited Editions

[Jim_in_PA]

That's our relatively new ?2022 27/32 hose with the relief valve.

You can swap out the old head if you want.
https://www.festool.com/accessory/d...ries/connecting-sleeves/577162---d-27-dm-asct

The hose that came with my new CT Mini has the tool connection with the sliding air stream opening. I've taped over it.

Yeah, and it sucks by opening when you don't want to.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I had a few of the 95th Anniversary Systainers, before the fire. Some of the 100th would be nice. I just wonder what will be in them? New tools only?
The 95th weren't necessarily new stuff. I had a Domino in one and the company still has an RO150, but neither of those were new or even up-dated editions of anything. (at least as far as I know? the RO is ina blue Systainer, but my DF500 wasn't)

 

[danny l]

The limited spring editions are
https://www.festool.nl/producten/acties/100-jaar-limited-edition

 

[Coen]

If only they gave the TS 60 a riving knife for this edition, hehe.

 

[Packard]

I googled “history of Festool” and found out that it was originally “Fezer & Stoll” and established in April of 1925.

It goes on to give a chronological history ending at 1939 and then jumping to 1956.

A passing mention of what they did during the war years would cause fewer raised eyebrows that skipping over it. 

Other than that omission, interesting.

Addendum:  I forgot to add the attachment.
https://www.festo.com/us/en/e/about-festo/company/history-of-festo-id_34983/

I any case, I think it would have been nice if they had the original Fezer & Stoll logo incorporated in the 100 year design.

 

[onocoffee]

A TS55 and TS60? Kinda weak considering most of the users have either (or both) saws already.

And while the color of the rail is cool, they missed the boat by not offering it in a more versatile version, like the LR-32 or even the KP rail. I do think the KP rail, with its green pads, would give a striking look to the blue rail.

They should just be offering every tool sold in 2025 with the blue systainer. Let it mark the year.

Oh, well...

 

[Coen]

Or made them 1500 or 1600 long, like everyone else stepped away from 1400

 

[Cheese]

Or made them 1500 or 1600 long, like everyone else stepped away from 1400

+1

 

[Packard]

Or made them 1500 or 1600 long, like everyone else stepped away from 1400

+1

I always thought the 55” long track was sensible.  It was just long enough to take slices off of a 4’ x 8’ sheet of plywood.

The next larger size I would want would allow length-wise cuts on the 4’ x 8’ sheet, about a 2600. 

 

[Michael Kellough]

[member=74278]Packard[/member]  both the 1400 and 2700 rails are barely adequate for the tasks you referenced. Most people consider them a little short for best results.

 

[Packard]

[member=74278]Packard[/member]  both the 1400 and 2700 rails are barely adequate for the tasks you referenced. Most people consider them a little short for best results.

I made a very nice pour-over drip coffee maker that I gave out as gifts.  The final dimensions were driven by the size of the Post Offices box that would ship at a fixed rate.  Their motto was “If it fits, it ships”.

The cartons were free and the shipping was about $10.00.

Perhaps there is some size limitation for shipping that Festool is scooting under.  I checked UPS, and their oversized package criteria would not apply.  Maybe DLH or some European shipper has size restrictions that would keep the length at 55”.

Note:  I always did feel that the 55” was a little scant (but manageable) for cuts of 48”.  If they had a 60” for a few dollars more, I would opt for that— not for the actual cut, but for balancing the saw cantilevered over the edge of the sheet.

 

[Allano]

I always thought the 55” long track was sensible.  It was just long enough to take slices off of a 4’ x 8’ sheet of plywood.

I would call it just not long enough for doing that confidently.

I prefer to start and end my cuts with the spindle clear of the board. And with no part of the saw sole clear of the guide rail.

To achieve that when cross cutting a board, the length of the guide rail must be board width + saw sole length + a little extra margin.

I do make those cuts with a 1400 mm rail, but I don't like it.

 

[Coen]

Or made them 1500 or 1600 long, like everyone else stepped away from 1400

+1

I always thought the 55” long track was sensible.  It was just long enough to take slices off of a 4’ x 8’ sheet of plywood.

The next larger size I would want would allow length-wise cuts on the 4’ x 8’ sheet, about a 2600.

No. Even with 18mm depth of cut and a TS 55 F you need 150mm before the cut and 135mm after the cut to keep both glide notches  on the rail and clear the workpiece with the blade. That leaves only 1115mm cut length.

There is a 2700, and it too is too short for cutting 2440.

If you make every cut a plunge cut or retract the blade before fully going through... yeah, you can manage. But it just sucks.

Two coupled 1400's (making 2800)... that is just very barely enough. I would never buy a 2700 rail either. Festool probably also assumes that, as they sell a bag for the 3000, but not a 2700 bag.

 

[Cheese]

[member=74278]Packard[/member] here's the problem...as soon as you add a rail square to the rail you've forfeited whatever rail length fudge-factor you had. Here are some photos for an easy explanation.

The 1400 rail with a rail square attached yields only 1" of overhang on a 48" piece of foam board, while a 1600 rail yields 9" of overhang on the same piece of 48" wide material.

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On a 1400 rail this is the centerline of the blade on a TSC 55 when moved to the extreme rail position while still being intact with the guiding element, and here's the centerline of the blade on a MT 55 on the same Festool rail under the same conditions. Both saws are severely compromised in their cutting ability if they are moved forward to complete the cut.

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[Coen]

Yeah the rail square is 152mm
But that is also the length you need anyway if you want to start at depth (assuming 18mm material) but both guiding notches on the rail.

Either way, Festool should stop with the 1400 nonsense, just like Makita went to 1500. The whole Festool kit aint cheap and it's just a disappointment that the rail you got with the saw is just a bit too short to properly cut the 1220 short side.

 

[Cheese]

Either way, Festool should stop with the 1400 nonsense, just like Makita went to 1500. The whole Festool kit aint cheap and it's just a disappointment that the rail you got with the saw is just a bit too short to properly cut the 1220 short side.

Ya, I agree...if Festool released that new 100 year rail in a 1500 or 1600 length, I'd be the first to purchase one...but at 1400...YAWN.

 

[onocoffee]

With the release in three days, I'm seeing more of the release stuff in the wild. Saw these at a dealer yesterday. Didn't ask if I could actually purchase them - almost bought the light but since I'm not pressed for any of these, I just will wait to spend my money with my local dealer because I want to support them as much as possible.

They also had the SysAir HEPA on display.

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[Packard]

[member=74278]Packard[/member] here's the problem...as soon as you add a rail square to the rail you've forfeited whatever rail length fudge-factor you had. Here are some photos for an easy explanation.

The 1400 rail with a rail square attached yields only 1" of overhang on a 48" piece of foam board, while a 1600 rail yields 9" of overhang on the same piece of 48" wide material.

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On a 1400 rail this is the centerline of the blade on a TSC 55 when moved to the extreme rail position while still being intact with the guiding element, and here's the centerline of the blade on a MT 55 on the same Festool rail under the same conditions. Both saws are severely compromised in their cutting ability if they are moved forward to complete the cut.

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Thanks for the detailed write up.  I think that I don’t use my track saw as many here.  I still rely heavily on my table saw.

It is only when I’m building cabinets that the Festool gets a work up.

I probably knew some of what you wrote, but never gave it an analysis.

Thanks.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Yeah the rail square is 152mm
But that is also the length you need anyway if you want to start at depth (assuming 18mm material) but both guiding notches on the rail.

Either way, Festool should stop with the 1400 nonsense, just like Makita went to 1500. The whole Festool kit aint cheap and it's just a disappointment that the rail you got with the saw is just a bit too short to properly cut the 1220 short side.

That is partly why I went with a 1900. It gives me the ability to cross-cut 5' sheets, along with angled cuts across 4' material. It really got a workout a couple of years ago, when I was doing all of those gas stations, with the laminate tilted to 45 degrees.

The 2700 is the one I see the least use for. It is barely enough for 8' cuts, so unless a guy just cannot physically fit a 3000 in his truck, I don't see it. At that point, I think a 1900 and 1080 would do it.

 

[Coen]

Yeah but 1900 is often just not that practical as 1500 or 1600.

They do sell a 1900 bag  [tongue]