2013 Catalog Picture

[TOOLTOWN]

I had a customer in the shop today who was looking through the new catalog.  He is a long time Festool user, and probably knows more about the tools than me.  He pointed out the picture on page 64, its the cover page for the routing section.  He said "What's this contraption the router is riding along?"

I looked at it and said "Well isn't that funny, I think it's a jig that's not available in the US."

Long story short, it looks like the APS 900 router template.  Now the question is, did I miss a memo, is the APS 900 coming to the US?  Or is Festool just dangling the bait to watch us squirm?

Ken

 

[copcarcollector]

I saw this too and had been meaning to ask. Just curious what it is!

 

[GPowers]

[popcorn]

 

[PeterK]

I missed that and have absolutely no idea what it is used for. Reminds me of the base plate for the Leigh FMT mortise and tenon jig. Hmm.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

It is the APS 900. It's an accessory used for joining counter tops in Europe. One of our European members will have to tell us more. And, it is not available in the US.

 

[TOOLTOWN]

So it's nothing more than a tease, Shane  [poke]

 

[Brice Burrell]

It is the APS 900. It's an accessory used for joining counter tops in Europe. One of our European members will have to tell us more. And, it is not available in the US.

Come Shane, there called worktops, not counter tops. [tongue]

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

You can use it to put stuff together.  [unsure]

Ken, we have to choose from the photography we have and sometimes things are shown that are NAINA.

________tops are not joined using this method here as far as I know. So, it would be pointless to offer it. I'm no expert on laminate ________tops and how they are joined here but I think they are just cut straight at a 45. And, they are used less and less in favor of natural stones, solid surface, and other materials.

 

[unityroad]

Look mom, Im using a very powerfull, High speed router.............. no glasses, no hearing protection. Geez must be a overseas thing. But I still need one of those for field verk..... [big grin]

 

[jonny round boy]

Look mom, Im using a very powerfull, High speed router.............. no glasses, no hearing protection. Geez must be a overseas thing. But I still need one of those for field verk..... [big grin]

And he makes the cuts in the wrong direction - right to left, instead of left to right...

 

[Davej]

Look mom, Im using a very powerfull, High speed router.............. no glasses, no hearing protection. Geez must be a overseas thing. But I still need one of those for field verk..... [big grin]

And he makes the cuts in the wrong direction - right to left, instead of left to right...

Maybe the video was done in Australia . [smile]

 

[sgryd]

And he makes the cuts in the wrong direction - right to left, instead of left to right...

How important is this when you are routing in a template? Not questioning. Just want to know..
//Michael

 

[peter halle]

Actually he was making a controlled climb cut with a 19 lb tool to get the cleanest cut on the top surface.  Probably very safe whereas the router couldn't kick in any direction because of the bushing installed in the router base.

I am curious why in the video when cutting the second piece it looks like he didn't pre route the last end first.  I would have been worried about chipping as the piece broke away.  Of course I have no experience with the accessory, so maybe someone here can tell me if this operation is the way that it is normally done.

Peter

 

[Wood_Junkie]

Well, he put eye protection on...you can see 'em at 4:14.  It very well may be he's got small earplugs in.

As far as the routing direction, you can go in either direction when doing a fully engaged (i.e. initially cutting on both sides) groove.  Depending on how you look at it, you're simultaneously climb cutting and not.  When he did the second pass, it was a deeper plunge, and still fully engaged.

To answer Michael_Swe:  In this template it's not important.  If you were using an edge-routing template, then the direction would matter and you should follow the usual rule, which is well summarized here:  http://woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip012100ws.html

 

[tiralie]

I don't understand a word of German but found this video very interesting.
Thanks for posting.
I don't do any of this type of work and don't know if I ever will but I really like the setup and the use of the MFS. I wonder if the solid surface guys would use this?

Actually he was making a controlled climb cut with a 19 lb tool to get the cleanest cut on the top surface.  Probably very safe whereas the router couldn't kick in any direction because of the bushing installed in the router base.

I don't believe he made a climb cut at least what we would traditionally a climb cut. It looks like he is because he demonstrates the cut with the machine turned backwards. After he makes his first cut to prevent the breakout he moves the router to the right side turns the router around and moves right to left. Essentially the bit is rotating into the good side and away from the cutoff. I would  guess that because he is using a straight bit, this reduces chipping on the top of the laminate.

I am curious why in the video when cutting the second piece it looks like he didn't pre route the last end first.  I would have been worried about chipping as the piece broke away.  Of course I have no experience with the accessory, so maybe someone here can tell me if this operation is the way that it is normally done.

He probably did, they just didn't show it.

 

[ART at WORK]

I just picked up the new 2013 TREND catalogue today and they have a similar product in there new products
Quick and accurate Kitchen Worktop Jig. 89,00 Pounds.
A lot cheaper than the festool brand.

http://www.trend-uk.com/product/KWJ700/

even has a video.
You guys should be able to get trend stuff in USA. or....

Pip

 

[tjbnwi]

I like the looks of the jack mitered counter/work top. I'd consider one of those templates.

Tom

 

[billg71]

You can use it to put stuff together.  [unsure]

....................................
________tops are not joined using this method here as far as I know. So, it would be pointless to offer it. I'm no expert on laminate ________tops and how they are joined here but I think they are just cut straight at a 45. And, they are used less and less in favor of natural stones, solid surface, and other materials.

Shane,

I was in a house yesterday and the granite countertops were joined with a similar jig. They were finishing up the install so I didn't get a chance to see the setup but they had done both ends of a U-shaped top that way.

First time I'd seen it but evidently it's happening right here in Georgia(US).

You might have a market.

Best,
Bill