A Festool Cabinet Job

[Chuck Kiser]

Excellent progress photos Chuck -

What is the hardware you are using to assemble the cabinets?  Assume you are using glue since I see clamps.  Looks like screws and caps from some of the photos. Any Knock-down hardware?

Also are the cabinets all veneer plywood?

Thanks for sharing -

neil

Neil,

This job was very confusing from day one, as the cabinet shop bid the job and did the design before going under. Sooooo we had a mix of four species of hardwoods and three species of ply and Melamine, Wheew! All this was done in order to save the customer some money. As a example, in the kitchen the cabs were to look like solid cherry by means of cherry edge banding on Melamine carcasses. On the end cabs we used cherry ply only on the side of the cab that was exposed. The doors in the kitchen were ordered in cherry from a separate supplier. So the cabs look exactly like cherry until you open the doors and then it is maple looking Melamine. Bizarre, to say the least.

Assembly was for the most part M/T joints glued and screwed with Spanx fasteners, except the end cabs that were glued and clamped.

Chuck

 

[Les]

Real nice work and quick too. How many people have been working on the job?

Any thing you would do different?

 

[Chuck Kiser]

Real nice work and quick too. How many people have been working on the job?

Any thing you would do different?

Les,

Just two of us on the job, we did everything except the finishing.

Next time.....larger and more descriptive part labels and we would keep the finishing in-house.

 

[vicc]

Great work and thank you.  I really appreciate your efforts in documenting your work.

 

[tenfingers]

First post.

I have been following along with your posts and am impressed. Thanks for the
step by step progress.

 

[Chuck Kiser]

Morning Guys,

More progress pics have been added. We are almost done, Yeah!

http://picasaweb.google.com/KnollwoodConstruction/LombardEuroCabs#

 

[Bill Wyko]

Chuck, that's comming along very nicely. Love that island.

 

[wnagle]

Chuck,

I am building some cherry living room pieces for my daughter.  I am having trouble getting the cherry to a blotch free dark rich color, similar to your pic 109.  Ive tried stain, and gel stain and pre sealed with shellac.  I was thinking of trying NGR dye.  Any thoughts?  The pices are all air dried cherry and cherry ply for the shaker panels.  Im am pretty new tofinishing and just started spraying.

wayne

 

[Chuck Kiser]

Chuck,

I am building some cherry living room pieces for my daughter.  I am having trouble getting the cherry to a blotch free dark rich color, similar to your pic 109.  Ive tried stain, and gel stain and pre sealed with shellac.  I was thinking of trying NGR dye.   Any thoughts?  The pices are all air dried cherry and cherry ply for the shaker panels.  Im am pretty new tofinishing and just started spraying.

wayne

Wayne,

Is the blotchy result on the hardwoods and the cherry ply or just the ply? If it is just the ply I would suspect burnishing is the culprit. Sometimes when the ply is manufactured the heated rollers can impart different pressures along the length/width of the ply. The difference in pressures can result in a less porus and non-uniform surface. So...... what I would do is rough up the surface uniformly using 80 grit (careful of the veneer thickness), then progress 120 to 180. At the 180 stage apply your stain of choice and check results. If the ply had burnish marks this will have solved the problem. Keep in mind that burnish marks are difficult to see without some type of stain or sealer to highlite those areas. As a matter of course I just sand all my cherry ply using the method mentioned above 'just in case'.

HTH

Chuck

 

[wnagle]

Chuck,

I haven't started finishing yet. I have sanded everything to 180 grit.  I'm just tryuing to prevent blotching as I read finishing books they all say cherry blotches.  when I try different sample stains nothing comes close to the factory rich dark reddish brown that I see in the kitchen cabinets on display.  I am told they use traditional lacquer with dyes in the topcoats.  Most of the recommedations all leave something out or introduce a bunch of variables in the instructions.  What I was wondering if you could tell me what process and products and colors you used to get the finishih on your pic.  That would give me a starting point.  So far I have some NGR dyes that seem to look ok wiped on some samples.  Behlens, nutmeg brown and blood red.  I plan to test some samples spraying the dye and may consider adding some dye to my top coat.  I'm going to use MLCampbell  Agualente pre cat waterbourne lacquer for my topcoats.  The nutmeg brown could be a little warmer, darker and richer,  and the blood red is a little too red.  So If you could tell me a little more about your process on the pieces in your pic.  Looked really good!

wayne

 

[Chuck Kiser]

Sorry Wayne, I misunderstood your question. I used a wipe on stain (I'll check manf. and color this week) leave on 10 minutes and wipe excess. The top coat was sprayed Pre-cat laquer in a Satin finish.

 

[wnagle]

Thanks Chuck,

I'll be waiting to hear from you...  I got most of the TV center glued up today.... I still need to make two doors and some shelves and glue up the top.  If I get started in the am I may accomplish that tommorow.  I may try to spray some dyes in combination wednesday to make some samples. 

Wayne

 

[Chuck Kiser]

Thanks Chuck,

I'll be waiting to hear from you...  I got most of the TV center glued up today.... I still need to make two doors and some shelves and glue up the top.  If I get started in the am I may accomplish that tommorow.  I may try to spray some dyes in combination wednesday to make some samples. 

Wayne

Wayne,

Here it is: Sherwin Williams, Sher-Wood BAC Wiping Stain, Deep Cherry Base. Our's was custom tinted, if you like it check order #3266-0034325

HTH

Chuck

 

[wnagle]

Thanks Chuck!!!  I have a sherwin williams nearby... I hav't done much business with them but I'll check it out and see if they can look up your order number... thanks again...

Wayne