A Little Help Needed Connecting Two Festool Vacuum Hoses

[wmarazita]

Hello folks,

I could use a little help identifying the proper connector to temporarily attach two Festool hoses:

The first hose is a dedicated 36mm Festool anti-static hose on a boom arm that is usually attached to my Festool vacuum. There is a standard "vacuum connector" on the "vacuum end" of the hose which is attached to the Festool vacuum. There is a standard "36mm tool connector" on the "tool end" of the hose.

The second hose is essentially the same 36mm hose as the first hose except is not anti-static. I would like to have a connector to temporarily attach the "36mm tool connector" of the first hose to the "vacuum end/vacuum connector" of the second hose. Does that make sense?

I am not worried about maintaining non-static continuity between the two hoses.

Can someone tell me if there is a specific Festool connector for this and the Festool number? And/or is there a connector from another company that will do this?

Thank you
Just Bill

 

[FestitaMakool]

The new hoses have a “vacuum end” that is compatible with the new “tool end” if that makes sense? (There’s a flange inside the larger “vacuum end” that has a diameter that the “tool end” fits inside)

 

[rst]

If theses are the older original style hoses, you will need to replace the tool end with the vac end type connector and then use a 2 1/4 to 2 1/4 connector.  I use the anti-static connectors that Oneida sells to connect three of the large hoses when I vac my porch.

 

[mattbyington]

I have this same problem, except with the tool-end of the 36mm (on my boom arm) and 27mm (a short 1 foot length of it that I use to connect the boom arm 36 to my sander or domino).

I just shove them into each other but without the vacuum on they always pull apart. If anyone knows of a way to connect them I would be forever grateful.

Matt

 

[Birdhunter]

Duct tape?

 

[mattbyington]

[member=15289]Birdhunter[/member] that isn't a tenable solution since I connect and disconnect it very frequently. When I switch between 36mm hose tools (Router, Track saw) and 27mm tools (Sander, Domino).

Also, duct tape is a pretty rudimentary solution that would get sticky adhesive all over both hoses, my tools, and the MFTs, which isn't desirable from my point of view.

I was just curious if anyone solved it better than me, that's all. Sorry for butting in.

Matt

 

[zapdafish]

I had the same issue, ended up being led to this link
https://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?pretty;board=festool-how-to;topic=hose-question-am-i-missing-something.msg543452&topicseen#msg543452

See the attachment from [member=48572]Shane Holland[/member]

That pdf helped me, unfortunately I bought from a local dealer so don't know what parts I bought.

 

[mattbyington]

[member=8208]zapdafish[/member] thank you!

Matt

 

[Shane Holland]

[member=67555]mattbyington[/member] we also did a video.

 

[peter halle]

There are times in life where you are away from all the wonderful connectors. imagine a desert island that perfectly pure power and a selection of kiln dried wood that is perfectly flat.  Although the ocean breezes are blowing in your face and you are catching the scents of the native flora, you need to connect two hoses on a temporary basis.  Duct tape is too sticky and is not in the survival kit...

Try multiple wraps of cheap masking tape.

Aloha!

Peter

 

[wmarazita]

Thanks for all of the input!

But, I am not sure it gets where I want to be. The video suggests I simply replace the tool end with a vac end and then connect the two hoses with a coupler. I am aware that I could do that, but I want to be able to use the hose on the boom arm with tools so it needs to have a tool end on it. 95% of the time there wont be a second hose connected to the first hose there will be a tool connected to it. Unless, maybe I am not understanding this correctly?

I also see that someone suggested that the new Festool hoses have "mating" vacuum ends and tool ends. Can I just replace the ends of the hoses with new fittings? If so, would I have to replace both the vacuum end AND the tool end, or just one of them? If just one, which one?

Thanks a lot!!
Just Bill

 

[bkharman]

There are times in life where you are away from all the wonderful connectors. imagine a desert island that perfectly pure power and a selection of kiln dried wood that is perfectly flat.  Although the ocean breezes are blowing in your face and you are catching the scents of the native flora, you need to connect two hoses on a temporary basis.  Duct tape is too sticky and is not in the survival kit...

Try multiple wraps of cheap masking tape.

Aloha!

Peter

Cling wrap!  It does a lot and can be air tight. Also great for packing. You can buy hand rolls of it just about anywhere plus it won’t leave residue.

Cheers. Bryan.

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[Michael Kellough]

“ Cling wrap!”

One of my favorite materials! I use it a lot, especially the handheld version.
For some reason it’s nearly always sold out at the places I shop so I always buy 2 rolls when it’s available.

 

[wmarazita]

For the good of the group, I was able to find a pretty good solution to my dilemma for anyone that needs to do the same.
The hose coupler sold on Amazon fits almost perfectly.
Modifications:
I cut the coupler in half (so I have a spare for the future).
I took a razor blade and shaved off a tiny amount off of the outside of the coupler to get it to fit inside the vacuum end of the second hose.
The tool end of the first hose fits perfectly with a tight friction fit.
The added benefit was the new fitting never needs to be removed and it doesn't restrict any airflow.
Thanks to Matt for planting this brainchild into my head!
Just Bill

 

[Bob D.]

For the good of the group, I was able to find a pretty good solution to my dilemma for anyone that needs to do the same.
The hose coupler sold on Amazon fits almost perfectly.
Modifications:
I cut the coupler in half (so I have a spare for the future).
I took a razor blade and shaved off a tiny amount off of the outside of the coupler to get it to fit inside the vacuum end of the second hose.
The tool end of the first hose fits perfectly with a tight friction fit.
The added benefit was the new fitting never needs to be removed and it doesn't restrict any airflow.
Thanks to Matt for planting this brainchild into my head!
Just Bill

Good idea! I wonder if in a pinch when you can't wait for Amazon next day or for a one time use if just cutting a strip of the correct thickness rubber or neoprene gasket material or something similar and forming your own ring from it would work.

You would use super glue to bond the ends of the strip together and form the ring. Probably wouldn't hold up to repeated use but it might work. It might also work without gluing, just cut the strip to the correct length then slip it inside the hose end and insert the smaller hose into it.

This assumes you can find an appropriate thickness material to work with.

 

[Peter_C]

I was just curious if anyone solved it better than me, that's all. Sorry for butting in.

Matt

Maybe not a better plan but it seems to be a viable option that produces a shorter stiff part to allow more flexibility overall with less weight. I removed the D27's large fitting to inspect it and a quick test fit showed it fit tightly into the end of the D36 hose. It does pop thru though meaning it goes to far in and then the lip won't allow it come back out easily. Some blue tape seems to have solved that problem. Could be glued maybe with a solvent (#4?), but the tape seems to make it a hair tighter. Mine doesn't fall out, yet is easily removable. Would be good for a short section of hose. I am not cutting my D27 shorter at this time, as I want the length and do not use a boom arm. Air leakage is minimal too.

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Now if anyone can explain to me how this D36 hose #500684 is supposed to loop to itself or attach to another hose please let me know? The larger fitting on the top is the D36 vac side fitting, with the lower fitting being the older D27 fitting that I removed. Does anyone know the part number for the large D27 fitting that will allow it to plug into D36 end fitting? I'd like to change the big fitting on one of my covered D27 hoses.

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Edit: Alrighty, I have been off the board for awhile and come back unable to post photos inline anymore *sigh* Failure... They can still be viewed by downloading them.