nickao said:I would be a judge, but I fear my narrow view of how the contest winners should be viewed may or may not be desirable to you.
nickao said:A project is that a "project" not a final pictures. I guess I must have missed his making of the project in other threads. I have not read through them all, only the newer threads.
I envisioned pics of the projects in stages showing the Festools being used in the pics. Pictures of the final project show no details at all. I think that is the difference between a regular woodworking forum and this.
The Festool techniques I thought were an integral part of the premise of the contest. I guess I did not read the contest rules correctly.
Matthew Schenker said:nickao said:I would be a judge, but I fear my narrow view of how the contest winners should be viewed may or may not be desirable to you.
Actually, I think you'd be a good judge! I never said you have a narrow view of how contest winners should be viewed. I think your view is right on, as far as contest winners goes. My point was that we don't need to say who is "allowed" or "not allowed" to enter the contest, since entries are simply lifted from the "Member Projects" board. If a project qualifies for the contest, that's great. If not, that's fine too.
So, do you want to be a judge?
Matthew
Brice Burrell said:nickao said:A project is that a "project" not a final pictures. I guess I must have missed his making of the project in other threads. I have not read through them all, only the newer threads.
I envisioned pics of the projects in stages showing the Festools being used in the pics. Pictures of the final project show no details at all. I think that is the difference between a regular woodworking forum and this.
The Festool techniques I thought were an integral part of the premise of the contest. I guess I did not read the contest rules correctly.
Nick, the way I've interpreted Matthews rules, we are looking for a project/thread that is the most exciting, entertaining, educational and just plain fun to read and participate in. If someone can achieve that without pictures documenting the construction, I have no problem with their winning the contest. Since the idea is to have a project thread that is "exciting, entertaining, educational and just plain fun to read and participate in" there is no unfair advantage to the professional woodworker.
Its all about generating excitement in the forum, the guy that goes the extra mile to do that will have earned the prize. That's how I see anyhow.
Brice Burrell said:Nick, I couldn't agree more. I think members should look at this as tough challenge, putting together a great thread is not easy. Adding pictures, SketchUp models, video, detailed descriptions of the build and throw in a little how-to info is a good way to get started. I really feel like members should have to earn the prize!
Matthew, if you want another judge, I'd happy to do it.
semenza said:I think it is absolutely necessary for the judges to state clearly why they chose the winner. This will give insentive for others to improve there entries.
Timmy C said:I don't mean to keep coming back to this, I really want to get more kids involved in woodworking. The PS2, X-Box, etc have taken them away from many of the activities that we enjoyed in our youth...perhaps leading us to one of the most rewarding hobbies that there is.
...I like Brice's suggestions as to design as well....also taught and incorporated in the classroom. Whether or not the school has Festool is irrelevant. The purpose of the School Contest would be to get the FT name out there, and perhaps generate buzz around "Shop Teachers."
Matthew Schenker said:Sounds just about right! OK, so now we have four judges: Brice, Jonny, Nick, and me.
Fred West said:Nick, I very much agree with you on the need for ongoing pictures as a project is being built. My guess is that we will also have many people submitting projects that are already done with their Festools and may not have progress shots. So the upshot, IMHO, is that we are going to have a combination of both ongoing and just final pics.
greg mann said:Matthew Schenker said:Sounds just about right! OK, so now we have four judges: Brice, Jonny, Nick, and me.
Matt, I love you but you can't count very well. You have Five! :![]()
tvgordon said:I'm glad we are getting the details narrowed down for this contest. I think the five judges are good choices ...
tvgordon said:John, I realize you said MOST members can buy the tools they want. I just wanted to point out that there are at least of couple of us that can't.
Fred West said:John, that is truly thoughtful and I am sure that the caring part you are showing by leaving a little spot for her bike will build you many browny points.:
If this all works for you please let me and the rest of the board know about it as I can only think that your wife must be a mail-order non English speaking woman to actually tolerate this.
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Fred