advice needed on best drill driver to go for ?

[CumminsDiesel]

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Never seen 1/4" which didn't fit Centrotec hand drive and Centrotec  Bit Adapter.

Never!

Where did you find it?

[member=8111]BeardMan[/member] - I ordered it from a place in the UK, and shipped to a friends. He posted it to me.

I just stumbled out and tried it again.
The 1/4" DOES fit the hand 'screwdriver'.
Bit they do NOT fit the green sleeved job that fits on the chuck which is in the picture from yesterday.

Holmz I got it!
But from your picture its hard to understand what green chuck you mean.
If you mean Festool Green Centrotec chuck its NOT supposed to fit ANY 1/4" bits or Hex Bits or......anything except CENTROTEC!
Thats why Festool have Centrotec Bit holder with lock and without,and ALL Festool Centrotec bit holder fit any bits just great!

 

[CumminsDiesel]

get anything different than Festool and it will cost you a looooot more than Festool. It is better to realize it before than after you pay.

Not exactly true,and what you mean "anything different" ?

A Centrothec set from Festool is expensive but worth any penny,a beautifully designed system!
Very fast to change from drill to bit and very sturdy and secure,minimize any drill/bits wobble,because of design.

 

[Darren1972]

Festool bit holder does take hex bits any hex bits

I wished I believed you... But I just tried, and all my 1/4" bits are bigger than 6-mm. [embarassed]A festool bit holder hex is no different than any other bit holder it holds any bit phillips ,pozidrive ,star ,socket any bit that fits into any other holder fits into festool i use dewalt /millwaulkee / wera / and whia all in my festool bit holder
None of the 1/4" bits... fit into the green sleeved price that is displayed on my A10M picture above.
None of the 1/4" bits... fit into the screw driver type Festool handle in the Centrotec box.

If there is a part... it must be to put a 1/4" tool onto a Festool drill ??
If there is a part... that makes them fit then the number of that part would be helpful.

All I could find was words that it was "a great system".
So it all sounded good when I got it, but I am still unsure how it is a great system.
At this point I am not sure I want to have to buy a drill to find out.

I got a small drill so I could run it without an adapter and with the small battery to get into t'oight spots. So having extensions on the drill/driver seems non-optimal.

The brad point drills are good, and the counter sink is nice.
The systainer's internal tray is a bot of a mongrel. I may use some zip-lock baggies in there as I had a spill of the gear which avalanched across the floor immediately preceding a Tourettes affliction.
...But I was swearing at myself more than the internal tray. [embarassed]

 

[Holmz]

get anything different than Festool and it will cost you a looooot more than Festool. It is better to realize it before than after you pay.

People rarely advocate for Festool as being the cheaper tool.

 

[Darren1972]

get anything different than Festool and it will cost you a looooot more than Festool. It is better to realize it before than after you pay.

People rarely advocate for Festool as being the cheaper tool.

Cheaper in the long term buy the best buy it once

 

[Just F Me]

Buy once...cry once.  Simple

 

[Holmz]

get anything different than Festool and it will cost you a looooot more than Festool. It is better to realize it before than after you pay.

People rarely advocate for Festool as being the cheaper tool.

Cheaper in the long term buy the best buy it once

I use the same reasoning with the red tools.
These days a there are a few tools at the top rung.

 

[CumminsDiesel]

Buy once...cry once.  Simple

Thats why I'm selling/sold all my yellow/blue dtills to replace it with Festool!

Just place my order today for Festool PDC18/4 and SYSLITE UNI TORCH from Bob Marino.

Can't wait,you know!

P.S. BTW sent Bob Marino couple questions and he didn't answer me,any idea why?

 

[DanielOB]

get anything different than Festool and it will cost you a looooot more than Festool. It is better to realize it before than after you pay.

Not exactly true,and what you mean "anything different" ?

A Centrothec set from Festool is expensive but worth any penny,a beautifully designed system!
Very fast to change from drill to bit and very sturdy and secure,minimize any drill/bits wobble,because of design.

It will be truth the moment you find answer on the question why Swiss made watches exist beside China made watches. Festool is NOT for everyone.
Anything different means any other brand one look at because of the cost.

 

[CumminsDiesel]

get anything different than Festool and it will cost you a looooot more than Festool. It is better to realize it before than after you pay.

Not exactly true,and what you mean "anything different" ?

A Centrothec set from Festool is expensive but worth any penny,a beautifully designed system!
Very fast to change from drill to bit and very sturdy and secure,minimize any drill/bits wobble,because of design.

It will be truth the moment you find answer on the question why Swiss made watches exist beside China made watches. Festool is NOT for everyone.
Anything different means any other brand one look at because of the cost.

For me Festool is more affordable,expensive but affordable.

There is more expensive tools than Festool,but I like Festool system,it work better for me.

And Swiss made watches,...I like Seiko,ALL made in house,from spring bar to the movement,I like that,and I like idea "more affordable" 

 

[JeromeM]

For me Festool is more affordable,expensive but affordable.

There is more expensive tools than Festool,but I like Festool system,it work better for me.

And Swiss made watches,...I like Seiko,ALL made in hose,from spring bar to the movement,I like that,and I like idea "more affordable" 

You talk about "Swiss made watches" then list a Japanese watch maker who makes the majority of it watch parts in China and most are assembled in Malaysia. So while they may be made in Seiko factories few are made in Japan, so what do you mean by "Made in House" (I guess "hose" was a spelling mistake)

There is also an interesting fact  that while not all Seiko watches are even labeled as made in Japan, the label "Made in Japan " doesn't mean that the item is actually assembled in Japan. It can be labeled as made in Japan if it is assembled in a factory owned by a Japanese company and supervision is Japanese!!

 

[CumminsDiesel]

For me Festool is more affordable,expensive but affordable.

There is more expensive tools than Festool,but I like Festool system,it work better for me.

And Swiss made watches,...I like Seiko,ALL made in hose,from spring bar to the movement,I like that,and I like idea "more affordable" 

the label "Made in Japan " doesn't mean that the item is actually assembled in Japan.

Same with Swiss watches,"Swiss Made" doesn't mean that the item is actually assembled in Switzerland.

Alright,back on track,can't wait to see my new Festool PDC 18/4

 

[Darren1972]

For me Festool is more affordable,expensive but affordable.

There is more expensive tools than Festool,but I like Festool system,it work better for me.

And Swiss made watches,...I like Seiko,ALL made in hose,from spring bar to the movement,I like that,and I like idea "more affordable" 

You talk about "Swiss made watches" then list a Japanese watch maker who makes the majority of it watch parts in China and most are assembled in Malaysia. So while they may be made in Seiko factories few are made in Japan, so what do you mean by "Made in House" (I guess "hose" was a spelling mistake)

There is also an interesting fact  that while not all Seiko watches are even labeled as made in Japan, the label "Made in Japan " doesn't mean that the item is actually assembled in Japan. It can be labeled as made in Japan if it is assembled in a factory owned by a Japanese company and supervision is Japanese!!

Erm not sure about that nissan says made in england (sunderland) actualy

 

[Holmz]

As Long as the Prince of Darkness (Lucas) does not make the car electronics, the drill, or the watch, then you should be o'roight.

 

[JeromeM]

For me Festool is more affordable,expensive but affordable.

There is more expensive tools than Festool,but I like Festool system,it work better for me.

And Swiss made watches,...I like Seiko,ALL made in hose,from spring bar to the movement,I like that,and I like idea "more affordable" 

You talk about "Swiss made watches" then list a Japanese watch maker who makes the majority of it watch parts in China and most are assembled in Malaysia. So while they may be made in Seiko factories few are made in Japan, so what do you mean by "Made in House" (I guess "hose" was a spelling mistake)

There is also an interesting fact  that while not all Seiko watches are even labeled as made in Japan, the label "Made in Japan " doesn't mean that the item is actually assembled in Japan. It can be labeled as made in Japan if it is assembled in a factory owned by a Japanese company and supervision is Japanese!!

Erm not sure about that nissan says made in england (sunderland) actualy

It is true, however just because it is acceptable under Japanese regulations to label things as made in Japan when the are assembled in a different country doesn't mean they have to, does it?

 

[Darren1972]

As Long as the Prince of Darkness (Lucas) does not make the car electronics, the drill, or the watch, then you should be o'roight.

Lucas do the electronics for nissan harnesses there factory is near my home

 

[teocaf]

As Long as the Prince of Darkness (Lucas) does not make the car electronics, the drill, or the watch, then you should be o'roight.

Wow, that joke's about 30 years old.  Too bad for Lucas they can't shake off that reputation in modern times.  Here are some others:

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mtmorris/index3.html

 

[Darren1972]

As Long as the Prince of Darkness (Lucas) does not make the car electronics, the drill, or the watch, then you should be o'roight.

Wow, that joke's about 30 years old.  Too bad for Lucas they can't shake off that reputation in modern times.  Here are some others:

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mtmorris/index3.html

ha ha soooo funny

 

[Cheese]

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mtmorris/index3.html

I like this one...The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF.

And sometimes OFF is available in all 3 positions.

 

[Darren1972]

My favorite is.    Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices.