Anyone want to speculate on when the KAPEX KS 120 REB will go brushless?

[COBill]

I recently purchased the KAPEX KSC 60 EB in part because it has a brushless motor and I don't like to buy tools with brushed motors unless there is absolutely zero alternative.

However it seems a shame that the KS 120 REB is one of the few miter saws on the market that is still brushed.

Anyone want to speculate on when Festool might update it to be brushless?

 

[onocoffee]

Considering the TS 55 has undergone three revisions (EB, REB, FEQ) while the TS 75 has only had one version in 20 years (EQ) - and the Kapex 120 got it's revision in 2020 (REB), who knows when Festool will update that saw. It's anyone's guess.

 

[usernumber1]

i'm guessing corded - what would the miter saw gain by going brushless?

 

[COBill]

IMHO all brushed motors should be banished to the dustbin of history.

Going brushless would gain it longer service life and fewer maintenance issues.

I am talking about the corded KAPEX KS 120 REB.

The cordless KAPEX KSC 60 EB, which I did buy, does have a brushless motor.

 

[luvmytoolz]

IMHO all brushed motors should be banished to the dustbin of history.

Going brushless would gain it longer service life and fewer maintenance issues.

I am talking about the corded KAPEX KS 120 REB.

The cordless KAPEX KSC 60 EB, which I did buy, does have a brushless motor.

+ the feedback with brushless allows better response to compensate for transient loads.

 

[Ebuwan]

Eh, never noticed or had a problem with my new version of Kapex 120. Maybe i don't use it nearly enough?

Is brush replacement hard on it?

 

[Coen]

I recently purchased the KAPEX KSC 60 EB in part because it has a brushless motor and I don't like to buy tools with brushed motors unless there is absolutely zero alternative.

However it seems a shame that the KS 120 REB is one of the few miter saws on the market that is still brushed.

Anyone want to speculate on when Festool might update it to be brushless?

I think your statement doesn't show "the KS 120 REB is one of the few miter saws on the market that is still brushed" but it shows your ignorance instead.

Let's see what comes to mind first in the corded section;
The top seller; Dewalt DWS 780; Brushed
The one with actual dust extraction; Makita LS1219L / LS1019L; Brushed
Bosch GCM series; Brushed
Metabo KGS series; Brushed

In fact... I can only find one listing of a brushless corded mitre saw... and that is obviously an error in the page of the reseller because it's manufacturer promotes it as having 'easy to replace brushes'.

Considering the TS 55 has undergone three revisions (EB, REB, FEQ) while the TS 75 has only had one version in 20 years (EQ) - and the Kapex 120 got it's revision in 2020 (REB), who knows when Festool will update that saw. It's anyone's guess.

You mean zero revisions for the TS 75? The EQ was there from the start. Some tools were also offered without EQ at the same time but those have disappeared from the catalog.

The cordless KAPEX KSC 60 EB, which I did buy, does have a brushless motor.

Because for battery powered tools the equation is completely different.

Eh, never noticed or had a problem with my new version of Kapex 120. Maybe i don't use it nearly enough?

Is brush replacement hard on it?

There is no problem at all. Just things getting hyped too much; like brushless motors for everything, tabless batteries, battery-powered everything, etc.

Going brushless would gain it longer service life and fewer maintenance issues.

I am pretty sure the LCA of the corded brushed Kapex looks way way way better than that of the brushless cordless Kapex if you include the batteries.

 

[onocoffee]

You mean zero revisions for the TS 75? The EQ was there from the start. Some tools were also offered without EQ at the same time but those have disappeared from the catalog.

Yes, exactly. Which is why I worded it as "TS 75 has only had one version in 20 years" - and just to be clear, I do mean this response in a friendly tone because I can see it could be taken in a different light.

I'm still at a loss why Festool wouldn't update the 75 all this time.