Bluetooth at ct15e

[mino]

Thanks. I know, but it's still impressive piece of execution in terms of build and material quality, as well as the amount of dust it's suck with my mt55.
Are those green clamps in corners for some sort of old type systainers? I also wonder about that cable holder at back - one part seems to have some rotate feature, what's the purpose if that ?

Yes, you can connect with the classic Systainers and compatibles like the Makita ones.

The "rotating thing" allows you to "open" the holder and thus pull off the whole cable "bundle" in one go. Also allows to fix/tighten the cable under itself and then just let it free, instead of a complicated "unbind". Personally do not use it, you are free to ignore it.

 

[Tobiasz]

is it possible to obtain the one from the right separately ? (one with the hairs)
Does this have that lock twist mechanism inside ?
https://ffx.co.uk/Product/Get/Festool-492392-4014549032237-Cleaning-Set--D-27--D-36-D-Rs

 

[mino]

is it possible to obtain the one from the right separately ? (one with the hairs)
Does this have that lock twist mechanism inside ?
https://ffx.co.uk/Product/Get/Festool-492392-4014549032237-Cleaning-Set--D-27--D-36-D-Rs

As for what accessories are available - check the Festool site and there is a place for all (currently marketed) accessories.

Yes, but makes little sense financially when you have a clean-sheet as far as accessories go.

Best advise I can give is to save up a bit and get the big cleaning set in a Systainer.

The one below, with the tubes, hose, ends all in systainer is hard to beat on the deal value. The D36 hose included is worth €100 itself and gives about 50% more air volume where needed compared to the D27 one. It also plugs directly into the back of the D27 hose, so you get a "7 meter hose" for the cases where it is needed as well.

You can also sell-on the systainer if you have no use for it to recoup some more of the cost.

Here:
https://www.rubart.de/Festool-Handwerker-Reinigungsset-RS-HW-D-36-Plus-577258-p10246150
https://www.rubart.de/Festool-Düsen-Reinigungsset-D-27-D-36-D-RS-–-492392-p10018584
https://www.rubart.de/Festool-Düsen-c1000216

Disclosure: No relations ship with the shop, but really like their site being very complete and exact on information and they are also a good price reference for DE prices. Not the cheapest on most stuff - except sandpaper where they tend to be hard to beat.

ADD:
No, the tubing does not use the bayonet, only the first part - the "handrohr" does, then the 36mm tubing standard is used from there on.

ADD2, while at it, do treat yourself to this:https://www.rubart.de/index.php?product=10035370

It is a godsend for home use, allows for true "no-dust" drilling in concrete ...

 

[NiteWalkerGR]

is it possible to obtain the one from the right separately ? (one with the hairs)
Does this have that lock twist mechanism inside ?
https://ffx.co.uk/Product/Get/Festool-492392-4014549032237-Cleaning-Set--D-27--D-36-D-Rs

As for what accessories are available - check the Festool site and there is a place for all (currently marketed) accessories.

Yes, but makes little sense financially when you have a clean-sheet as far as accessories go.

Best advise I can give is to save up a bit and get the big cleaning set in a Systainer.

The one below, with the tubes, hose, ends all in systainer is hard to beat on the deal value. The D36 hose included is worth €100 itself and gives about 50% more air volume where needed compared to the D27 one. It also plugs directly into the back of the D27 hose, so you get a "7 meter hose" for the cases where it is needed as well.

You can also sell-on the systainer if you have no use for it to recoup some more of the cost.

Here:
https://www.rubart.de/Festool-Handwerker-Reinigungsset-RS-HW-D-36-Plus-577258-p10246150
https://www.rubart.de/Festool-Düsen-Reinigungsset-D-27-D-36-D-RS-–-492392-p10018584
https://www.rubart.de/Festool-Düsen-c1000216

Disclosure: No relations ship with the shop, but really like their site being very complete and exact on information and they are also a good price reference for DE prices. Not the cheapest on most stuff - except sandpaper where they tend to be hard to beat.

ADD:
No, the tubing does not use the bayonet, only the first part - the "handrohr" does, then the 36mm tubing standard is used from there on.

ADD2, while at it, do treat yourself to this:https://www.rubart.de/index.php?product=10035370

It is a godsend for home use, allows for true "no-dust" drilling in concrete ...

Agree completely on that cleaning set. In the US, it's only $46 more than the hose alone and you get the rest of the cleaning set pieces and the big systainer. I'm able to fit both the 36mm hose that came with the set, along with the d27/32 hose that came with my midi and a few extra bags in there too.

 

[Tobiasz]

Guys thanks for all your feedback in that topic. I will consider all you wrote here. Thanks. I have one more question. Bluetooth. Can I check is it work correctly without additional remote? I was trying festool app and I had hope that I will be able to control extractor from phone but I'm missing that feature inside app.perhaps some of you found other way to check is it working properly.

 

[mino]

Unfortunately not. You need either a BT battery or at least one remote.

 

[Maahfu]

Here is what everyone wants to know.  Can you convert your CT 15E to a MIDI 1.  100%.  Can you add Bluetooth to the vacuum 100%.  Note this may void the warranty but worth it.  The full conversion only makes sense if you bought the CT 15 but regret not getting the MIDI 1.  It would have been cheaper to just buy the MIDI 1 in the beginning, but if you already own the CT-15, then you are already $300 dollars into it. 

Parts needed:
Garage  204717  $80.60  (Allows for hose storage and ability to connect systainers on top.
Housing 203729    $88.40 (The only reason you are getting this is for the green handle above the Filter for Filter cleaning feature)
Control panel 204759  $176.90  ( This adds Bluetooth to the vacuum.  If you just want Bluetooth you just need this part.
Cleaning Module  203734  $71.10  The module that makes the green handle on the side work ( Hepa filter cleaning System)
Brake  203733  $41.00

Total $458 parts + Initial investment of $299(ct-15)  =  $757

In the end you will spend about $100 more that if you would have just bought it from the beginning, however to sell your CT-15 and purchase a new CT MIDI 1 you will lose more than $100.

The lower section and upper housing are identical for both machines which is why the modules are interchangeable.  Thank German engineering for this!.  Modular construction allows for the use of the same parts in many different machines.  It will take you maybe an hour to swap all the parts.  The wires from the control panel are a direct swap.  You should have no problems as long as you are not a gorilla in a China shop.  Don't remove the power cord from the housing, just uncoil the cord and slide it thru the back to allow you to set in on the ground.  When you swap the cleaning module out when unscrewing from the top of the hepa filter housing there are two clips in the front to separate, seriously a very easy job. 

 

[mino]

Here is what everyone wants to know.  Can you convert your CT 15E to a MIDI 1.  100%.  Can you add Bluetooth to the vacuum 100%.  Note this may void the warranty but worth it.  The full conversion only makes sense if you bought the CT 15 but regret not getting the MIDI 1.  It would have been cheaper to just buy the MIDI 1 in the beginning, but if you already own the CT-15, then you are already $300 dollars into it. 

Parts needed:
Garage  204717  $80.60  (Allows for hose storage and ability to connect systainers on top.
Housing 203729    $88.40 (The only reason you are getting this is for the green handle above the Filter for Filter cleaning feature)
Control panel 204759  $176.90  ( This adds Bluetooth to the vacuum.  If you just want Bluetooth you just need this part.
Cleaning Module  203734  $71.10  The module that makes the green handle on the side work ( Hepa filter cleaning System)
Brake  203733  $41.00

Total $458 parts + Initial investment of $299(ct-15)  =  $757

In the end you will spend about $100 more that if you would have just bought it from the beginning, however to sell your CT-15 and purchase a new CT MIDI 1 you will lose more than $100.

You have skipped the $100+ difference between the basic versus the braided hoses cost.

 

[Coen]

Here is what everyone wants to know.  Can you convert your CT 15E to a MIDI 1.  100%.  Can you add Bluetooth to the vacuum 100%.  Note this may void the warranty but worth it.  The full conversion only makes sense if you bought the CT 15 but regret not getting the MIDI 1.  It would have been cheaper to just buy the MIDI 1 in the beginning, but if you already own the CT-15, then you are already $300 dollars into it. 

Parts needed:
Garage  204717  $80.60  (Allows for hose storage and ability to connect systainers on top.
Housing 203729    $88.40 (The only reason you are getting this is for the green handle above the Filter for Filter cleaning feature)
Control panel 204759  $176.90  ( This adds Bluetooth to the vacuum.  If you just want Bluetooth you just need this part.
Cleaning Module  203734  $71.10  The module that makes the green handle on the side work ( Hepa filter cleaning System)
Brake  203733  $41.00

Total $458 parts + Initial investment of $299(ct-15)  =  $757

In the end you will spend about $100 more that if you would have just bought it from the beginning, however to sell your CT-15 and purchase a new CT MIDI 1 you will lose more than $100.

The lower section and upper housing are identical for both machines which is why the modules are interchangeable.  Thank German engineering for this!.  Modular construction allows for the use of the same parts in many different machines.  It will take you maybe an hour to swap all the parts.  The wires from the control panel are a direct swap.  You should have no problems as long as you are not a gorilla in a China shop.  Don't remove the power cord from the housing, just uncoil the cord and slide it thru the back to allow you to set in on the ground.  When you swap the cleaning module out when unscrewing from the top of the hepa filter housing there are two clips in the front to separate, seriously a very easy job.

Like [member=61254]mino[/member] said; you forgot about the hose. I don't know about US prices, but a basic CT 15 (577410) is like €340 here and a CTL Midi I is €530

Hose garage 204717    €65
Housing 203729    €86
Control panel is different # here, but assuming it's equal to 20479 that's another €126
Cleaning 203734  €69
Brake €40

So with shipping that is total €400 to bridge a price difference of €190 (still excluding the hose!). So total spend is €400 + €350 = €750
Good luck selling any of the leftover parts... who is gonna buy that?

While if you sell the CT 15 for like €250 you probably get someone picking it up the same week, meaning you are down €90. Plus €530 for a new Midi I makes €620. And that includes the new hose. So for a savings of €130  you get the new hose, make someone else happy with a nice 2nd hand vac, don't leave unused parts and gain the new hose.

 

[Maahfu]

Sure, however I do not know many that didn't buy the upgraded hose the day they bought the vacumn.  The purpose of this post was designed to let others know they can upgrade as they go (spread the cost out)or just add bluetooth if they choose.  For myself I could go about it either way or just keep the ct-15 and pickup the Midi and park it with my ct-48,ct-26 and ct-15.  Originally when I was searching forums to see If I could add bluetooth there was nothing to be found, except this post.  One gentleman said he retrofitted the panel.  I interpret that as you will need to cut and splice it in.  This is not true it is a simple swap out wire for wire connector for connector.  Also read many posts about upgrading the garage but hated the hole in the side.  Again if it bothers you you can plug the hole and get functionality too.  Again this was the purpose of the post.  Hope it serves others well.

 

[Coen]

That doesn't matter. What I calculated above is a €130 saved by just selling the CT 15 and buying the CTL Midi I.

Buying a CT 15 and a separate nice hose makes zero sense too. But even if you regret the CT 15 later on... just trading it is a better deal.

 

[Maahfu]

That doesn't matter. What I calculated above is a €130 saved by just selling the CT 15 and buying the CTL Midi I.

Buying a CT 15 and a separate nice hose makes zero sense too. But even if you regret the CT 15 later on... just trading it is a better deal.

That is assuming you get top dollar for your trade.  In the US and a quick sell I'd maybe get $100 for the Ct-15.

 

[squall_line]

That doesn't matter. What I calculated above is a €130 saved by just selling the CT 15 and buying the CTL Midi I.

Buying a CT 15 and a separate nice hose makes zero sense too. But even if you regret the CT 15 later on... just trading it is a better deal.

That is assuming you get top dollar for your trade.  In the US and a quick sell I'd maybe get $100 for the Ct-15.

I mean, if you're offering, I'm sure there are plenty on here who would take your CT-15 off of your hands for only a C-note.

Then again, if someone was selling a $400 dust extractor on Marketplace or something for only $100, I would probably think it was hot and/or broken, so your mileage may vary; caveat emptor and all...

 

[ChuckM]

A decent second-hand Festool machine should fetch about 60 to 70 of its prevailing retail price.

 

[Maahfu]

Don't take this the wrong way, but for myself I have plenty of disposable cash.  I'd rather spend the extra $100 or so and not deal with the people on Craigslist or Offer up.  I average on sales under a 2 weeks hold out about 50% value.  If I saw a used one on sale for $200 usd I'd spend the extra $100 and get a new one. Like I mentioned earlier there was no hard data on what you could or couldn't do to this line, so I setout to a answer the unknown. I have provided the data us it or not.  Know that if you just want to add the garage and bluetooth it can be done in under 20 min.  If you want to go further then it too can be done.  For myself the ct-15 sat on my Kapex and was a little underpowered and capacity was a little too small.  I replaced it with a CT26 and turned the ct15 into the floor cleaner.  I felt it was a little inadequet on my bench top so I added the brake and the garage for the cyclone and vacuum set.  Then it ticked me off about the bluetooth (my 26 and 48 have it at the end of the hose)so I added that and decided to plug the hole and make it functional handle.  Now it is perfect for the floor and the bench top clean up or secondary tool.

 

[Maahfu]

A decent second-hand Festool machine should fetch about 60 to 70 of its prevailing retail price.

Dang I paid $299 for it when it first came out.  I would never pay $425 for the CT -15e.

 

[Cheese]

So, all's well that ends well.  [smile]

 

[mino]

Dang I paid $299 for it when it first came out.  I would never pay $425 for the CT -15e.

Not sure how in the US, but over here everything, well, everything made in EU, is between 30-50% more compared to before the COVID and the Ukraine war. Chinese stuff is up "only" +10-20%.

The electicity prices are +50% to +100% for households (paid more before) and +200% to +400% for big businesses. Oil/gas downstream products *this includes ABS plastics* are about +50% to +100% depending on the type.

Considering that, these $429 of today is the $300 of 4 yrs ago. More-less.

On topic:
"Upgrading" a CT15 E, while there is CT MIDI out there, makes very little sense.

Upgrading a CT MINI with a CT 25 bin, that probably can be justified.
In the US, I can also imagine swapping *just* the electronics board on the CT 25 would be probably sensible as there are advantages to no hose garage - the vac is more compact and some do not want/need to stack systainers atop.

But even that is probably not worth the full-service warranty loss.

Buying a used/broken CT 15 out of warranty and swapping the board for a Bluetooth one. That I can definitely see as a good idea.

 

[ChuckM]

I don't need another CT15, but if I bumped into a great deal, say 50% off, I'd grab it and add blue tooth, using a remote switch and light bulb combo (for $25 cdn or so), as explained in another thread.

 

[Coen]

That doesn't matter. What I calculated above is a €130 saved by just selling the CT 15 and buying the CTL Midi I.

Buying a CT 15 and a separate nice hose makes zero sense too. But even if you regret the CT 15 later on... just trading it is a better deal.

That is assuming you get top dollar for your trade.  In the US and a quick sell I'd maybe get $100 for the Ct-15.

Well, you can take a bit longer than sell it to the first guy that walks past.  [blink]