CMS modules

[IG_Woods]

Hello,

I've got unique opportunity to buy CMS. well, only router option.  Question for people who own it. How do you like it?  How much it cost in Europe?  Seller said that router fence is precise. How good is it?  What is the difference? I already own Bosch router table.

Thank you

 

[AlexThePalex]

If I were you I'd buy it, knowing how unique it is in the States. If you don't like it, you can put it up here for auction and make yourself a nice mega profit.

As for precision, what can I say, yes, it is very precise. Festool only does precise.

The total cost for a complete CMS router module (CMS+module+router OF1400) here in Holland is €1500. Without the router it would cost €1000.

 

[meatman]

I agree with what Alex said
CMS is a fantastic piece of kit I love mine
I have CMS for OF2000 & TS75 also sliding table and table extensions
All the best
Meatman [smile]

 

[mouppe]

I just bought the CMS router module by itself in the UK. It costs 470 pounds, which is roughly $750. I plan to put it into an MFT800 top.

When I examined it, it looked really first-rate. Very heavy and solid, but it breaks down into small packages (apart from the base of course).

Here is a picture of all the bits after I disassembled everything and wrapped some in bubble wrap.

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[IG_Woods]

I just bought the CMS router module by itself in the UK. It costs 470 pounds, which is roughly $750. I plan to put it into an MFT800 top.

When I examined it, it looked really first-rate. Very heavy and solid, but it breaks down into small packages (apart from the base of course).

Here is a picture of all the bits after I disassembled everything and wrapped some in bubble wrap.

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That's exactly what I'm thinking (CMS + MFT800)

 

[VictorL]

Where did you find CMS module?

VictorL

 

[mouppe]

Where did you find CMS module?

VictorL

On a little island just off the coast of France. 

 

[IG_Woods]

Where did you find CMS module?

VictorL

There is one listed on eBay

 

[Frank Pellow]

Lucky you.  Buy it!

 

[meatman]

If you put the CMS table insert into a MFT800 you will not be able to use the sliding table element of CMS
The sliding table allows you to cut fantastic tenons amongst other things
Meatman

 

[VictorL]

If you put the CMS table insert into a MFT800 you will not be able to use the sliding table element of CMS
The sliding table allows you to cut fantastic tenons amongst other things
Meatman

1. We don't have CMS at all.
2. If we get CMS, I can put back original  MFT-800 top into MFT-800 and CMS module into CMS table. So I'll have CMS AND MFT-800.
3. Basis system used parts compatible with  MFT-800/1080
4. We still can buy extension wings for MFT-800/1080

I think this is perfect temporary solution. As I know first CMS modules arrived 5-10 ago, but we still can't buy them officially.

VictorL

 

[mouppe]

I think the OP is looking at the router module, so the sliding table extensions are less useful anyway.

 

[Wim]

I have the CMS router unit for the OF1010, in Holland that is. And it is sturdy and precise, as said above. And I miss it very much in de USA. But I already bought a Triton router to put in a router table (still in the planning stage). I bring my CMS table with TS55 insert to the USA because I bought a TS55 locally.

 

[stairman]

I strongly advise AGAINST the Triton Routers.  I have owned a couple and all were JUNK.  Triton sent 2 different replacements and every one would barely plunge up/down without holding the router between your knees and wrenching the hell out of it with both hands  (this is WITH the spring installed) 2 were literally thrown out, and I finally sold the last on ebay as parts about a year ago,  GOOD RIDDANCE

if you are used to even Porter Cable quality, you will HATE the Triton...

considering you are used to Festool,  stick with Festool.  anything else will be disappointing at best,,,

 

[mouppe]

Got stopped by airport security on my way back to Canada just now. Had most of the CMS router module in pieces in my carry-on! Had to give a little explanation of what it does and who Festool are.

Left a couple of security guys (and a bird!) seriously impressed.

CMS AINA in 7 hours!

 

[mouppe]

I spent all day reassembling the CMS router module that I brought over from the UK and converting an MFT 800 into a router table.

There are a lot of components in the package, and the instructions are typically less than helpful. Nonetheless, most of the parts only fit one way.

The router module is very heavy. The central part of the fence alone weighs almost 3 kg. The base plate is 7mm thick aluminium. I can imagine there is no vibration, even with an OF2200 mounted in it.

Despite being almost square, cutting an opening in my MFT 800 for the base plate proved to be very difficult. I know that other FOGgers have looked into doing this, so I can say that the end result is worth it, but it took a long time to get there.

The problem is that the edge of the base plate is three different thicknesses in places. The short sides are 7mm thick, the front side is 5mm thick, and the rear edge is a cove-shaped 18mm thick at the deepest point. There are also a couple of corners rounded off.

My widest rabbet bit is 1/2" so I used my TS55 to cut a square hole in my MFT top 1/2" smaller than the base plate. My hole was deliberately off-centre so that I could have as much space as possible in front of the fence. It is also slightly to one side to avoid having an edge cut through a dog hole.

I then routed the various depths on each side. The rear edge is the hardest as there are actually two lips, and the top one is quite thin.

All in all, I was quite happy with the result and the base plate is snug and level enough with the MFT800 for my purposes. With a little tinkering I may improve it a little bit.

Tomorrow I will assemble the fence and test drive the router in it.

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[Frank Pellow]

Richard, I would like to do this myself some day, so I am following this with lots of interest.

 

[meatman]

Excuse me for asking the obvious question.
why would you want to muller the top of a perfectly good MFT800.
when all you had to do was change the MDF top in the MFT800.
That way you would still have an MFT800 without a dam great hole in it.
Or am I missing something here 

 

[festooldude]

Excuse me for asking the obvious question.
why would you want to muller the top of a perfectly good MFT800.
when all you had to do was change the MDF top in the MFT800.
That way you would still have an MFT800 without a dam great hole in it.
Or am I missing something here 

[big grin]

 

[mouppe]

Fair point.

Normally I would have used a replacement top but this is an exception. I didn't think it was necessary to explain why in my first post, but apparently I do.  

I would definitely not have used my MFT/3 top to do this, but as it is I bought the MFT800 in the reconditioned tools sale, and the underside was slightly damaged. Also, I have not found a real need for the MFT800 table since I bought it (initially I bought it as a present for a friend but he didn't want it (!), then I planned on buying another used one cheaply and connecting it to make a larger table but I have not been able to find one), so I figured why just add clutter in my small shop? The router module is very heavy, and I don't plan on moving it around.

I did check to see if replacement tops are still available for the MFT800 - and they are- so if I ever get the whole CMS basis system, I can replace it for only $60.