When making a series of mortises using the outrigger stops or pins or paddles, after the first cut (narrow mortise) then you move the selector switch to the wider setting. Doesn’t this throw off the spacing if you are registering off of the previous cut? Do you then readjust the stop 3mm closer to the cutter to make up the difference?
Cross stops on Domino 500
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As long as you use the same pattern of one narrow + wide mortise on both sides, there is no need to reset the cross stops.
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Yeah I noticed that too. Only just bought the cross stops and was doing a job attaching a shelf edge. Did one exact then adjusted waggle to medium and carried on across not thinking. Then nothing, apart from the first hole, lined up with the other part that I had drilled all tight. Bit of a pain really. Just needs a bit of thought
joiner1970 said:
From your number of posts, I am guessing you have quite a bit of experience, but I thought I would mention this as RNEMTP is a newer owner. If you make a mistake on the narrow setting, the fix is to glue in a domino, flush cut the protruding part of the domino, and then re-plunge a mortise. In this case super glue (CA) might be your friend for a faster bond time.
Hmm... how do you recover from a wide mortise error? [scratch chin]
Do you widen the mortise to double width and then insert 2 dominoes?
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Good advice [emoji6]eddomak said:
I didn't bother as it was a shelf edge I just recut some slots in new places and left the old wrong holes
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Chris is absolutely correct, both mating surfaces must be mortised the exact same way if you're using the cross stops; can't do all exact size on one board, and then 1st hole exact size with remainder set wider on the other, using the cross stops - don't ask how I know, very painful. I guess that's the main reason why I don't use the cross stops anymore. Use a pencil to mark the center-lines, then my experience has shown it really matters not how you set the width.
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Here is the method I have used to do this. http://festoolownersgroup.com/festo...s-of-slots-with-the-domino/msg45656/#msg45656
Thank you all for the input. Good advice here. I likely won't use the cross stops either unless I'm doing a big production job. Seems like any time saved by using them could be potentially lost due to error or trying to calculate which stop to move after the first mortise and how much to move it. Much easier and faster to lay the pieces to be joined next to each other and square a line across each location where you'd like a mortise.
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See you just joined up, so 1st, WELCOME to the FOG. 2nd sounds like you broke the code.
I am OLD school, and believe my best work with wood is when I try not to get too fancy. I still measure twice and cut once and sometimes still find the cut ain't right. With the Domino, if you haven't figured it out yet:1) you must always be aware of your reference surface, so I make some type of pencil mark; 2) since pencil is already in hand, I layout the mortises, marking location of each;3) remember not to bottom out the Domino on my work bench - making the mortise closer to the top edge of the pane, or worsel; 4) plunge slowly while keeping the domino flat against the panel; 5) if it gets really complicated, I'll just do pocket holes with my Kreg.
Keep us posted,
DrD
See you just joined up, so 1st, WELCOME to the FOG. 2nd sounds like you broke the code.
I am OLD school, and believe my best work with wood is when I try not to get too fancy. I still measure twice and cut once and sometimes still find the cut ain't right. With the Domino, if you haven't figured it out yet:1) you must always be aware of your reference surface, so I make some type of pencil mark; 2) since pencil is already in hand, I layout the mortises, marking location of each;3) remember not to bottom out the Domino on my work bench - making the mortise closer to the top edge of the pane, or worsel; 4) plunge slowly while keeping the domino flat against the panel; 5) if it gets really complicated, I'll just do pocket holes with my Kreg.
Keep us posted,
DrD
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My understanding is that the cross stops are for locating a single mortise, but want a distance other than the 37mm you'd get with the paddle or peg that's in the face of the unit. For example, if you wanted to place a mortise 50mm from an edge. I've only used them a couple times for that.
--John
--John
