CT CYCLONE Pre-Separator: Coming to NA on October 1

[Bob D.]

If they're running a bag in the dust bin, what keeps it from getting sucked up.
I don't see how they are addressing that though they must be somehow.

The only two ways I know of are:

1.) a wire frame that sits inside the bag to keep it from being drawn in or
2.) the method that Oneida uses (and may have patented) and that is to
    equalize the pressure inside and outside the bag using a small 1/4" hose
    that pulls a vacuum on the outside of the bag equal to that on the inside.

This works very well on the Oneida UDD and I bet one could rig up the
same setup on just about any vac.

 

[Don Ware]

UPS Tracking said I'll get "MY " Demo Monday 8/6/18. I'll make a video after work and post. Ro sanders to 850 plainer. I'm going to try and put it on a CT 26 with boom arm and Work station. New Toy's !!!!!!!

 

[Distinctive Interiors]

Wouldn't it have been simpler and better for transport if the top (cyclone portion) systainer just connected to a sys-5 somehow for the collection bin? Heck, even make the bottom sys-5 clear so you can get the same visibility effect and allow liners inside of it.

  At least one person has built a collection bin from a regular Systainer with a cyclone on top (same idea as the DD for Festool unit). They had to line the inside of the Systainer with plywood to keep the sides from collapsing. As I recall it worked out.

  Seth

It was me that fitted a Dust Commander Cyclone into a Sys5.

After my first initial trials with it out on site, there are a few air leaks due to the fact that the plywood lid isn't 100% airtight. I have already made a Mk2 version of the ply drop box that is hopefully going to be more efficient but have yet to try it out as the Mk1 still captures at least 90% of the fine dust I produce.

The size of my drop box is not as large as the containers appear to be on the Festool CT Cyclone (10 or 12 litres at a guess...?) and obviously, that can be rather limiting if you are producing larger quantities of material, such as chippings from a planer/thicknesser. As the majority of what I cut and machine out on site is man made board & sheet materials with fine dust, I check the drop box regularly and empty it.Ive never managed to fill it to overflowing as yet.

It does fit on a Midi though,....as you can see from the pictures in the other thread!  [big grin]

Tim.

 

[Don Ware]

It's here !!!! Came in about half hour ago. I have it hooked up and it works Great !!!!!
I'll make a video after work tonight !!!!!

 

[rljatl]

That's a slick setup with the workcenter.  The Deluxe Dust Deputy is too tall to work with the workcenter.

 

[peter halle]

I saw this video yesterday: 



Peter

 

[Don Ware]

 

[six-point socket II]

Thanks for the great live/candid, hands on video Don!

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[Dick Mahany]

Many thanks for the real life demo.  As a pre-seperator, it sure looks like it is doing the job well.  While I do like my dust deputy very much, the Festool modular design is an excellent design and I like the ability to use it in the compact arangement as well as with the taller bins.  I think this would be an excellent set up if paired with my CTL-SYS.

 

[rst]

I have three Oneidas that work great at my stationary tools, I'll be getting the Festool for in my van.

 

[JFelchlin]

Thx Don - For a really informative demo.
While I’ve been a strong advocate/user of my two ALL STEEL Dust Deputies -
Which have seemed to have avoided the problems of grounding and Dust Extractor electronic “burnouts” -
I have to say that it looks like Festool really “listened” to its customers - Rose to the occasion - And “out Dust Deputied” the Dust Deputy.
Three observations were apparent to me from your video.
1.
It really works. So... Major savings on buying/using expensive Festool DE bags.
2.
It looks a LOT STURDIER than I originally thought it to be.
3.
It works “in unison” (fits nicely) with the Festool Dust Extractors.

Of course, “the rubber will meet the road” when it’s in actual use by end users on the job and in our shops.
But... On the front end... This looks like a real “winner”!
Hurrah for Festool... And for us.

 

[copcarcollector]

[member=65553]Don Ware[/member]

THANKS for the video!

 

[RKA]

Thanks Don, that's helpful!  The cuts with the Kapex surprised me, it appears to have filtered out a good percentage of that dust.

 

[Don Ware]

Yes this thing really worked Great !!!!!!

 

[Brice Burrell]

There seemed to be a lot of static from the clear bin.  I don't if that will be an issue or not. 

 

[usernumber1]

thanks for the video. this is still very early;

my question is how much pressure drop is there compared to the black or standard DD.
i'd also like to see how much gets past the cyclone into the bag

i noticed that static in the bin as well, maybe the plastic liner would remedy the issue.

 

[sancho57]

Wow Don thats pretty slick. Im gonna try to make it out to your Festool Demo day and take it for a spin.

 

[guitarchitect]

thanks for the video. this is still very early;

my question is how much pressure drop is there compared to the black or standard DD.
i'd also like to see how much gets past the cyclone into the bag

i noticed that static in the bin as well, maybe the plastic liner would remedy the issue.

Yeah, pressure drop is my big question too - thien separators often lead to a drop of ~50% and the DD is more like 25%...

 

[guitarchitect]

I have three Oneidas that work great at my stationary tools, I'll be getting the Festool for in my van.

Do you have any photos of your setup? I'm hoping to use one underneath a workbench so that I can hide away my CT26E, I was planning to just run lines where I would need to hook up the vac to sweep up the floor, and maybe make a manifold like Peter Parfitt's

 

[Don Ware]

Some days just don't go right..... I shot a new video tonight came home and I have no internet. I'm on my phone right now. I cleaned out the Cyclone and changed out the bag in the CT. Cut with the Planex and plained with the 850 and when I was done there was all most No dust in the bag !!!!! I was just in disbelief at how little dust made it to the bag. I will have video upload ASAP