CT CYCLONE Pre-Separator: Coming to NA on October 1

[Steven Owen]

I’ll add to the ‘Why not” speculation, how about putting the CT CYCLONE on top of a SysRoll dolly powered by a CT SYS on top. Don’t have firsthand knowledge of either CTs but I agree with Steven that a Mini/Midi ought to be functional with the CYCLONE.

The CT Cyclone will function with any brand of vacuum. It just cannot be used on top of other vacuums the way it can be on top of the CT 26, 36 & 48.  I like the idea of using it with the SYS-Cart or the Sys-Roll & CY-Sys.

I think the sys cart would be a more practical way to connect the Festool Cyclone to the Midi.  A longer hose with the unit stacked on top would create stability and possible suction loss of the hose connecting the Midi to the cyclone is too long.

There’s actually more options to connect a Festool cyclone to a MIDI than the Onieda. 

 

[Eorlingur]

I’ll add to the ‘Why not” speculation, how about putting the CT CYCLONE on top of a SysRoll dolly powered by a CT SYS on top. Don’t have firsthand knowledge of either CTs but I agree with Steven that a Mini/Midi ought to be functional with the CYCLONE.

Thats what I'm hoping is possible. It would be a very flexible way of solving very different needs with fewer parts. If it would fit under a CMS unit as well it would be the perfect setup for me. It would also enable separation, for recycling purposes, of different types of dust with a single extractor. I would use the separator for all wood dust and just use the CT vac for paint and plastic. That would reduce the need for two separate vacuums for some projects.

 

[Michael Kellough]

To get even more modular,

Units are Systainer forms

Mix and match as needed

Hose storage unit
Power unit (gasketed)
Filtration/bag unit
Diverter unit?
Separation unit
Dolly

 

[jeh]

Can it be used with the CT22 and CT33?

 

[chrisrosenb]

Can it be used with the CT22 and CT33?

It can be used with any vacuum as far as dust separation. If the CT22 & CT33 can support the weight of a full tub of drywall dust, than it may be able to be set on top of them. 

 

[Cheese]

Can it be used with the CT22 and CT33?

Yes...this was confirmed by Festool.

 

[ronen]

Hi everyone,
I'm new here...
Great Forum!
I need some help:
Does anyone know if the festool ct pre-separator ct-va-20 is compatible with the cleantec CTL-mini and/or the cleantec CT 17 ?
Can it be mounted on the CTL-mini?
Thanks a lot

 

[sancho57]

I dont think it can.

I think its designed to work with a regular CT

I would call Festool to be sure.

 

[Bullterrier]

I see that Festool UK has updated the description to state separation of:

Up to 80% mineral dust (to be used with Autoclean vac).

Up to 95% coarse dust (sawdust shavings chips)

I assume MDF dust would fall across the 2 categories?

It will be good to see some real world video reviews soon!

 

[ben_r_]

I see that Festool UK has updated the description to state separation of:

Up to 80% mineral dust (to be used with Autoclean vac).

Up to 95% coarse dust (sawdust shavings chips)

I assume MDF dust would fall across the 2 categories?

It will be good to see some real world video reviews soon!

And some comparisons with the Oneida!

 

[Gregor]

I just saw the CT CYCLONE live on a roadshow.

Still not impressed.
Comment from another visitor: great idea, but why does it need to look that pieced together?

 

[wilde737]

Anyone know if this can be used on a CT36 for use with the planex without having an Autoclean vac?  I would like to buy one but just can't justify buying another vac as well, I already have two for my little hobby shop.  Thanks

 

[Bullterrier]

Festool state up to 80% separation of fine dust and recommend the AC. There’s no physical restriction but the 20%+ passing through would soon affect suction.

 

[rst]

Remember, that 20% is going into your bag, not the filter.

 

[sancho57]

[member=25351]rst[/member]

That is true. What I like is the increase capacity. Since I use my CT 26 to suck up the chips from my CMS Ts 75 module, and router modules, plus suck up the chips that dont make it in the trash when I use my Makita thicknesser/Planer and Jet jointer.

So there is a advantage to haveing the larger capacity for me. Especially on larger jobs/projects

 

[jeh]

Unless you are a production shop it probably is a lot cheaper to keep buying new bags or to buy one of the ones that is reusable. You'd have to run through a lot of bags to offset the cost and even with this you still need to buy bags (just not as many).

 

[peter halle]

Obviously this as [member=652]JimH2[/member] points out will not be for everyone.  Neither will using just bags or even the long-life bags.  I could see myself potentially getting one for some scenarios but then again, not for all.  I have never gone the long life bag route because I do drywall repairs and the finer dust does clog the pores of the long-life bags.  I don't use the router enough to justify that bag either.

I have one of the plastic Oneida cyclones that I rigged up a way to attach it to my older CT but stopped using it because it was clunky.  To get rid of the larger bulky stuff in a non disposable bag situation was great.  It did elongate the intervals before bag replacements for me even when sanding drywall.

I think that the new Cyclone will appeal to a large part of the market but obviously will not be for everyone.  I am now traveling with my current model Midi so unless I switch back to my larger CT I am not a candidate for the Cyclone unless I mod things.

Peter

 

[Cheese]

I'm considering purchasing one for my CT 22 just so that I can monitor how much dust has been generated and empty the vac EARLIER and EASIER.  With the conventional setup, it's out of sight, out of mind and the bag gets packed full.

Miele has had "full bag" indicators on their vacuums for the last 10 years.  [cool]  Never understood why Festool didn't offer that feature.

 

[peter halle]

I'm considering purchasing one for my CT 22 just so that I can monitor how much dust has been generated and empty the vac EARLIER and EASIER.  With the conventional setup, it's out of sight, out of mind and the bag gets packed full.

Miele has had "full bag" indicators on their vacuums for the last 10 years.  [cool]  Never understood why Festool didn't offer that feature.

My experience is that although it happens to “brick” a bag, performance is probably slipping as the bag pores are getting clogged.  I wouldn’t pay one dollar more for an indicator on the Festool vacs because personally I feel that it would send the wrong message.  By the time the bag is full it isn’t working as well. 

I am admittedly a bag slicer or cleaner who has tried to extend the life of bags although I haven’t done that on the newer fabric style bags.

Peter

 

[Michael Kellough]

[member=1674]Peter Halle[/member], why not? (I haven’t yet bought a fabric bag)