"do you borrow out your Festools"

[Fred West]

I have ONE person I would lend any tool I have as he is as bad? as I am about the conditions in which they are used and what they look like when they are returned. Anyone else I will gladly help/work/whatever it may be but under no circumstances would I lend them my tools. Woodentop I understand what you are saying but I also know from experience that even if you just go ahead and replace or fix what has been damaged you still have something ugly hanging between you and your friend and it is nigh on impossible to ever see them in the same light. I wish I could but so be it. Fred  

 

[Dan Clermont]

I had mentioned in another thread how I let others take my Rotex for a test drive. I've done that because they all believe Festool's are over priced and not worth the cash. Each and everyone of them who I have let borrow it have vowed to buy one in the near future and some have already made the purchase.

Also let someone borrow my TS-55 cause he wanted me to help him build a Murphy bed but I didn't have the time so I let him use the saw to dimension the pieces.

Nobody is allowed to borrow my Domino, too many things can go wrong with it.

After having let all these people use the tools I am starting to say "No" cause the last guy who borrowed the Rotex bought it back with a trashed pad and even though i mentioned it to him he never offered to replace it or even to chip in for a new one. 

I'll lend something to a guy like Mirko or someone else in the area that knows and understands Festool's cause I may need to borrow a Festool they own someday

Dan Clermont

 

[The Woodentop]

I don't think anyone has brought up the subject of potential liability in this thread, but it is something that should be thought about.  I would hope that if your good friend cut off his or her body part with a saw you loaned them, they wouldn't try to hold you responsible, but you wouldn't know that until something unfortunate happened.  Law suits are nasty.

Makes me glad we haven't taken the litigious path in England.........YET! I don't think we need to worry about that in this country. And we don't have signs on chainsaws saying, words to effect 'do not touch chain whilst in motion'. I like Americans in general but WTF?

 

[The Woodentop]

I have ONE person I would lend any tool I have as he is as bad? as I am about the conditions in which they are used and what they look like when they are returned. Anyone else I will gladly help/work/whatever it may be but under no circumstances would I lend them my tools. Woodentop I understand what you are saying but I also know from experience that even if you just go ahead and replace or fix what has been damaged you still have something ugly hanging between you and your friend and it is nigh on impossible to ever see them in the same light. I wish I could but so be it. Fred  

I see your point too Fred. We must agree to differ. A person will always be more important to me than a chattel. And if a tool was returned in poor condition, I wouldn't hold it against the person......I might break his freakin leg. No, seriously, I'm too old to be worried about possessions..............I think I finally 'grew up' when a few friends passed away and I realised how important they were. I like Festools (well, most of them) but I don't love them.

 

[nickao]

My tools are not only my possessions, they are the SOLE means to support my family. So break my tools and you are hurting my family, period. How you can deal with the disrespect of someone bringing back your tool broken and not repairing or replacing it is great. I on the other hand would be pissed and would have to work my A** off to make another 560.00 for the new saw. I may still love the person, but that has nothing to do with getting mad or upset with them.

I think the point is do not lend out your tools in the first place , then  you do not have to be mad at someone you love.

nickao

 

[The Woodentop]

My tools are not only my possessions, they are the SOLE means to support my family. So break my tools and you are hurting my family, period. How you can deal with the disrespect of someone bringing back your tool broken and not repairing or replacing it is great. I on the other hand would be pissed and would have to work my A** off to make another 560.00 for the new saw. I may still love the person, but that has nothing to do with getting mad or upset with them.

I think the point is do not lend out your tools in the first place , then  you do not to be mad at someone you love.

nickao

Likewise, my tools are primarily intended to be used in the pursuit of cash to support me, my wife and four children. My friends are still welcome to use them. It's possible I have sufficient tools that should one be damaged there won't be a disaster.........but my friends, to date, have not materially damaged them. A scratch here and there........but I scratch my tools too. In fact, I've just completed an order of 38 oak window frames which are being used in a major refurbishment up north which has paid very well so I'm going to buy some more tools to make life even easier and which will provide me with insurance against breakage........by whosoever's hand.

 

[festeringtool]

Some festool owners worry me - they seem to be in love with them not to mention the containers and the badges too.
I like too use them - chuck them on the shelf till next time and just hope I can find them!

 

[The Woodentop]

To many times my friends have disrespected my tools. I finally stopped borrowing out any of my tools. Have any stories  about it. I would like to hear them.

Some kind of etiquette should be followed when borrowing tools. My dad taught me, borrow the car, return it washed with a full tank. The same goes for tools. Return them clean, working with fresh sandpaper, etc.

nickao

Shall we have an English lesson?

"do you borrow out your Festools"  equates to: Do you lend your Festools?

"To many times my friends have disrespected my tools." equates to:  Who the f&*K knows?

Come on people.......some English please.....PLEASE!

 

[The Woodentop]

Some festool owners worry me - they seem to be in love with them not to mention the containers and the badges too.
I like too use them - chuck them on the shelf till next time and just hope I can find them!

I see you've lost your unique moniker. Now Festering, try to keep your nose clean and keep out of trouble? Some of us have put ourselves out to kinda support you!

By the way, I've had a battery powered drill halfinched over the weekend........

 

[festeringtool]

had you borrowed it out to one of your mates....... LOL

or in english


did you lend it to one of your friends?

 

[festeringtool]

I've always been polite but just don't beat about the bush........ just get right in there!

 

[nickao]

Some festool owners worry me - they seem to be in love with them not to mention the containers and the badges too.
I like too use them - chuck them on the shelf till next time and just hope I can find them!

I see you've lost your unique moniker. Now Festering, try to keep your nose clean and keep out of trouble? Some of us have put ourselves out to kinda support you!

By the way, I've had a battery powered drill halfinched over the weekend........

To many times my friends have disrespected my tools. I finally stopped borrowing out any of my tools. Have any stories  about it. I would like to hear them.

Some kind of etiquette should be followed when borrowing tools. My dad taught me, borrow the car, return it washed with a full tank. The same goes for tools. Return them clean, working with fresh sandpaper, etc.

nickao

Shall we have an English lesson?

"do you borrow out your Festools"  equates to: Do you lend your Festools?

"To many times my friends have disrespected my tools." equates to:  Who the f&*K knows?

Come on people.......some English please.....PLEASE!

Excuse me?  Festering tool never left me a post like the one you just left regarding my English. I am tired of people picking on him. Get over it.

We are on the internet, not English class. Internet typing is NOT like typing a report for your boss. So just take your nasty comments and correcting of people and keep it to yourself.

I wrote both those sentences EXACTLY the way I wanted them to read.

Mom never taught you if you have nothing nice to say keep it to your self?

"To many times my friends have disrespected my tools." equates to:  Who the f&*K knows? - There is nothing wrong with the sentence. I wasn't asking a question I was stating a fact.

What the heck are you talking about?

I will not respond to you again get off this thread if you do not like it!

My background is in electronics computer engineering. I get the term from a circuit for generating a register address ie

"a first stage, for generating a first sum bit as a sum of the least significant bit of the index and the least significant bit of the offset minus one, and for generating a borrow-out bit;"

Just so you know why that term is in my head. It's how I am trained to think.

nickao

 

[Scott W.]

I have ONE person I would lend any tool I have as he is as bad? as I am about the conditions in which they are used and what they look like when they are returned. .....

Thanks for the kind words Fred ;D ;D.  I'll be down to borrow a few...

Scott W.

 

[Eli]

I don't lend/borrow out  tools unless I'm willing to lend/borrow out myself to go with them.

It takes longer to explain the conditions acceptable for their use than it does to do it yourself.

I've got plenty of lower level tools, ie,  valuable nonetheless, but not crippling to me if they are damaged.

I'm not attached to the Festools in any way other than monetarily. I don't want to have to replace them, and just as I wouldn't leave them sitting out for fear of loss, I wouldn't let anybody use them that might damage them at cost to me.

The last thing I lent voluntarily to friends was a nice video camera. It came back with tape footage in it of it being held out a window while 4 wheeling through a redwood forest in the snow. Although the camera was sort of clean there was mud splashing the lens caught on tape (morons ). I stopped lending cold after that. I only had one guy ever get mad at me for not lending him tools, he was a bit of a burnout friend and ended up getting back on drugs shortly after severing our friendship because I wouldn't let him use my jigsaw.

 

[danrush]

I won't lend a tool.  I won't help you move.  Why?  Broken tool, broken back = no work. 

 

[Daviddubya]

...By the way, I've had a battery powered drill halfinched over the weekend........

Halfinched???  Does that mean stolen?  Or?  (It's not in Webster's)

 

[nickao]

...By the way, I've had a battery powered drill halfinched over the weekend........

Halfinched???  Does that mean stolen?  Or?  (It's not in Webster's)

I believe it does means stolen -

British Slang

 

[Fred West]

Scott W, how did you know?  Well feel free to just pop on by and I will of course lend them to you.  ;D Fred

 

[dltflt]

I used to lend out tools but there is noway I will lend out my Festool Tools.  They are like my children.

 

[Tinker]

Runnin' late this morning, but just remembered a story my close friend told me years ago.  He swears it to be true.  I only have his word.

Joe, my friend, had loaned a chainswa to another friend of his.  Months later, he decided it was up to him to go collect his saw, as it had become evident Charlie was not interrested in returning same.

"Charlie, i need my saw."

"Aw hell, Joe, I sold that saw six months ago and bought one of my own."
??? ??? ???
Tinker