door build issue

[JoelCahalan]

I am building a raised panel door for an under stairs closet.  I dryfit everything and it all came together great.  Then I added dominos at all the joints.  Now I cannot get the joints to close and I cant figure out why the domino is causing this interference.  I am sure that the mortise depth is more than half the domino length but the last eighth inch of joint the domino is causing it not to close.  Has anyone had this experience?  I am searching for an answer...

 

[mastercabman]

What size domino did you use?
I had a problem with the 5 mm bit
Was having the same issue
When I inspected the bit,I noticed that the tip was chiped
Just check your bit to see if it's damage
Quick fix would be to cut your domino a little to compensate for the gap

 

[johnleve]

Any chance you made the mortises before putting the profiles on the rails and stiles?

 

[Birdhunter]

It is easy to measure the depth of the mortise. I just stick a tenon into the mortise as far as it will go and mark the depth on the tenon. I repeat the process on the other mortise. I'm careful to note which line goes with which mortise. The two lines should show if the mortises are of the correct depth.

If the mortises are not as deep as they should be the culprits could be broken cutter tip, incorrect plunge setting on the Domino, or incomplete plunge action.

 

[roblg3]

if you put dominos in during dry fit, it would've been noticed earlier.  I know that doesn't answer the question, but to me dry fit includes the dominos to avoid any issues once glue starts flowing.  Trying to help. 

 

[greg mann]

if you put dominos in during dry fit, it would've been noticed earlier.  I know that doesn't answer the question, but to me dry fit includes the dominos to avoid any issues once glue starts flowing.  Trying to help.

I didn't read into the post that he has glued it yet. If he did and cannot get it apart now, which hasn't been stated, then a pst mortem is in order. Several good questins have been asked and I am guessing one of them will lead into the right direction.

The only thing I might surmise is if the rail and stiles are cope and stick the domino might be offset just enough that they won't allow the tongues to line up with the grooves,like perhaps referncing off different faces as an example.

 

[JoelCahalan]

my problem was that i was referencing off the edge of the boards but since this is cope and stick construction I needed to reference off the edge of the tenon.  I determined from this that i needed to shave 4.5 mm off my dominos and this solved my problem..

 

[SMJoinery]

my problem was that i was referencing off the edge of the boards but since this is cope and stick construction I needed to reference off the edge of the tenon.  I determined from this that i needed to shave 4.5 mm off my dominos and this solved my problem..

Hi
I'm glad you got the project sorted but couldn't help wonder if you didn't actually solve the whole problem.
In your initial post you said that dry fit up was great but when glued up the joints were showing an "eighth" open. This would suggest to me from my own experience that your references were correct and your domino depths were fine. What has maybe happened is that glue has built up in the bottom of your mortise, when the joint is closing there is a way for the glue to seep out however when almost closed the glue is captured. This may be why you couldn't fully close the joint with glue but it was fine when dry fitted.
We had exactly this issue making up a similar project when we first used the domino. The domino bottomed out on too much glue in the mortice and because it was on tight setting it had nowhere to spill out.
Cutting off the 4mm that you did simply would have eased the bottoming out and allowed the joint to close.
Hope that helps.
Apologies if I've misunderstood the situation.
Good luck.
Scott

 

[JoelCahalan]

glue was not involved in this issue