Dust Deputy On Systainer

[Corwin]

Why not make the bottom of the plywood box slightly larger than the sides and cut notches. If you use 1/2" ply for the bottom it latches to the vac perfectly.

Here's a thread on an adaptor plate ( see picture on post 14).
http://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=1286.0

Mike C.

Cutting a plywood base to fit was my first intention, but I did like the Systainer-4 setup.  When my ClearVue arrived I found that the paint bucket worked for starters (as it was all that I had around to use) and placing it into the Systainer-4 that came with my cleaning set worked out great.  I may still cut out a plywood base for some future need, but this setup works so nice I may leave well enough alone.

I did notice a little static I received from my PC-121 sander today and decided to do a quick fix.  Since the Festool hoses attach directly to the ClearVue, I ran one wire on the outside from end fitting to end fitting by simply placing the bare wire between the hose and the fitting.  For the inside, I stripped a length of wire, fed thru intake and pulled up thru exhaust by pulling up with some tongs.  To connect to the inside of the fittings, I simply coiled the wire such that it would contact the inner surface of the fittings.  This did eliminate the static I was encountering with the PC sander -- did not have that issue with the TS55 or EQ1400, but with those tools my hands were in contact with plastic parts rather than the metal that is adjacent to the handles on the PC.  Anyway, I do plan on getting some copper tape to improve upon my AS connection solution -- but, this it did address the problem.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

To ground my Bosch 4x24 belt sander, I used a short length of small sized flat-braided copper wire.  I secured one end under one of the screws near the power trigger switch; this screw is threaded into the metal frame housing of the machine.  I then wrapped the other end of the braided wire around the DC outlet nipple and forced a Festool 27 mm hose over it.  Absent that ground wire I was getting a near steady stream of tingling shocks from the Festool hose to the back side of my hand that was holding the power trigger switch and gripping the handle of the sander.  Absent that ground, the shocks would start within 10 seconds of powering on the belt sander.  This might be the best demonstration of the value of A/S being designed into the Festool system I have ever experienced.

Dave R.

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Hi Tom,

I didn't modify any hoses just for the DD. 
I cut the D27 hose off so I could use it added on to the end of the D36 from the boom so there would be a smaller hose at the tool. All the hoses are just as they came except now I have two shorter D27 hoses instead of one long one.

That said,

Run your D50 from the vac to the DD. On the DD end you need the Festool vac end to vac end coupler and one of the replacement swivel hose ends (vac side) the hose side will fit the DD, the vac side goes in the coupler, it's just a little plastic sleeve.

On the dust in side (to the tool) you need to get from which ever hose you are using to a rubber (tool end) of the D36 hose. I just turned my D36 around backwards and then adapted the other end (vac end) to a short piece of the D27 hose with a coupler.

I'm sorry this seems complicated, It's not... It's just hard to explain.  ???

Scott W.

Hi Scott! Yup, now it's all making more sense to me. When I can fit it into my budget I'm going to get a DD/Sys5 like you, it seems perfect for on-site use with planers and larger saws such as the Kapex and a benchtop tablesaw. Again, great idea, keep 'em coming!!
Regards,
Tom

Ok... I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on this thing...... What I'd LIKE to do is not modify my D27 or D36 hose. So, what it looks like is to go from the DD to my tool-end hose I need the rotating D36 tool-end  (#487721) to connect to the DD, and then some sort of adapter so I can connect from there to a standard D27 or D36 hose, or even a Y-piece (452898). So, can I.....

1. Go directly from a D36 Reducing sleeve (487721) to a D36 Rotating Connector (452894), which I can connect to via a Connector Sleeve (493047) for connection to a Y-piece, D27 or D36 hose?

2. Or do I need just a few inches of D36 hose to go between parts 487721 and part 452894?

I apologize for getting so nitty-gritty here, I just want to make sure I have all of the proper parts and connectors on hand so I'm not left waiting to use the DD because I'm one part short..... Anyways, I appreciate any help you folks have to offer!
Tom

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Tom,

What Scott wrote will work exactly.

Here's another way, if you prefer.

1.  For the DD inlet, remove the vacuum end adapter from a 35mm hose and fit the hose directly to the inlet.  Mine was a snug fit.  I installed the 36 mm hose on the Boom Arm with the tool end fitting intact.

2.  To enable use with Festool products that require a 27mm hose, make an adapter.  All you have to do is fit tool end fittings to both ends of a short piece of 27 mm hose (mine is about 1 foot long).  The tool end fitting of the 27mm hose will fit snugly up inside the tool end fitting of the 36mm hose.

I prefer using the 36mm hose when I can because it is less prone to clogging when using a router (or planer).

3.  If you want to leave the tool end fitting on your 36mm hose, intall a rubber plumbing reducer onto the inlet of the DD, and fit the 36mm hose with fitting into it.

4.  To ensure electrical continuity of the anti-static features of the Festool system  (which my belt sander will prove or disprove real fast!), I installed braided copper wire in direct contact with the metal nipple of the DD inlet running over the outside of the rubber adapter and under the SS screw clamps, and wrapped it so it is wedged between the outside of the vacuum end fitting of the 36mm hose and the inside of the inlet of the rubber plumbing adapter.  As a further precaution, I also extended that grounding wire to the DD end fitting of the 50mm hose (both ends come equipped with vacuum machine end fittings) and wedged it between the fitting on the 50mm hose and the outlet of the DD.  This arrangement also allows me to quickly remove the DD and couple the 50mm and 36mm hoses using a Festool connector.

Dave R.

 

[ericbuggeln]

Dave and Tom, I just recently got to set up a boom arm and Dust Deputy to my ct 22.  I added a three prong outlet and was able to run the two Festool cords plus an extension cord for other tools without a lot of B.S.  Besides the improved dust collection it is really nice to be able to get all the cords and hoses together and not have to always be changing cords around.  I had it set up to use a SYS 5, but have ran it all week with a 5 gallon bucket and am not sure what I would gain form using SYS 5.  I run a y-blanking piece off of the Dust Deputy to a D27 for Festool stuff and a D50 for Miter and contractor saw.  So far I love it for on site work, it is the epicenter of my whole operation now.  Tom based on your other posts I think you would love it.  Not as portable, but works so well, you'll deal.  If anyone wants to see pics of the Dust Deputy on Sys 5 and 5 gallon bucket to compare let me know.  It is the culmination of what I learned form this forum, so you probably already saw it, Eric

 

[MichaelTurri]

The thing I don't like about Oneida's Festool Specific Solution is the size. So big. No need, really. I'm thinking of retrofitting a systainer as done in this thread, but smaller. To determine the right size of systainer to repurpose, I did some rough calculations to compare systainer volumes with the CT bags. Here's what I found:

SYS1 (11.7L or 3.1Gal)    :    CT MINI (10L or 2.6 Gal) 
SYS2 (17.6L or 4.6 Gal)    :    CT MIDI (15L or 4.0 Gal)
SYS3 (23.5L or 6.4 Gal)    :    CT 26 (26L or 6.9 Gal)
SYS4 (38.1L or 10.1 Gal)  :    CT 36 (36L or 9.5 Gal)
SYS5 (46.9L or 12.4 Gal)  :    CT 48 (48L or 12.7 Gal)

Basically, a SYS2 comes close to the 5 Gal pail version of the Dust Deputy! That's really slim. While you obviously won't be able to take advantage of the Systainer's entire volume once you build an interior receptacle, the overall volumes are surprisingly close! So a SYS3 with an interior receptacle would probably replicate or expand upon a cumerson 5 Gal pale. This affords people the choice of developing a more low profile chip container, albeit with less capacity.

I checked with Oneida, who confirmed that one can use a smaller size receptacle. The example I used was a shoe box. Now the other interesting thing to note here is that the smaller the size receptacle, the thinner the wall thickness would need to be before crushing would occur. I'm going to start looking around for premade solutions, although I bet a 0.25" finnish plywood would be more than enough to withstand the crushing forces.  I'll also work on ways to use an interior bag to simplify cleanup.

I'll keep updating as I progress down the road with this project. In the meantime, feel free to contact me with any ideas.

 

[Woodworkingnut]

Scott,  I just posted a different version but similar to yours  take a look you may want to build one it gives you more useability.