Jiggy Joiner
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Hi all, I've mentioned in various threads about the overheating with my older Fein 18 volt Supercuts (AFSC18) and it was a mix of loving the power of the tools but, the frustration of the overheating and melting. I think I may of even said I wouldn't buy Fein again which was probably out of frustration, as when my issues started, Fein were already getting ready to launch a new and improved model, with the included upgrades, mainly a shock absorber, or anti vibe if you like, that I'd suggested it needed in many exchanges with Fein UK.
I have muddled along still using the old ones, replacing the body casing when needed but, recently both of the machines have wires breaking because of the years of vibration in use. I normally open them up and re solder but, the solder makes the wire brittle and snaps even more easily.
So apart from a few cordless Makita multi tools as spares, I was getting frustrated again with the Supercuts. Somebody who works for me, bought the newer (current) model a good while ago, and teased me that I really wanted one, despite me saying never again.
He may of been right? what I really wanted was something of the same or more power, that wouldn't melt
I have, after reading and taking part in the Supercut and Vecturo threads, been looking at both machines more closely again. I was going to buy one of each but, I have very few Festool batteries, a vast amount of Makita batteries and a fair few Fein. I wouldn't consider another Makita multi tool as they are not in the league of Vecturo or Supercut. So I got a deal on the Fein anniversary set in two systainers.
To me, this seemed better value for what are almost identical machines.
After using the new machine, quite extensively recently, I have come to the conclusion that it is a vast improvement on the previous model. The anti vibe works well, there is still vibration, which I think would be difficult to eliminate completely with such a tool but, it's nothing like it's predecessor. This is what I wanted the predecessor to be, powerful but, comfortable to use.
The blade change is so simple, the blades snap in and are held very firmly and safely in place by the new mechanism. The blades can be snapped in at more or less any angle, and releasing the blade is also very easy, by pulling the lock lever back.
This machine and the Vecturo, can use the whole range of Starlock blades but, it can only use Starlock blades, non of the old type blades can be used. The blade patent is still tied to Fein and Bosch, which is a small niggle as it keeps the cost high but, not a real issue, as I'll buy more in bulk to keep the tax man happy.
I noticed the lock lever is now plastic instead of the alloy the previous machine had, in honesty this was one of the things that put me off the latest Vecturo. I was worried over nothing though, as the new blade locking mechanism, means the leaver doesn't need to be made super strong. The old machine required a fair bit of pull to release the lever and mechanism, so the alloy lever made sense. The new machine requires very little effort or pull to release the blade, so the plastic is more than strong enough. So don't worry if you're a long time user, and notice the plastic lever, it's fine on both the Supercut and Vecturo.
Battery life seems on par, or possibly better than the previous model, and using the tool for prolonged periods isn't a problem, both in battery life or overheating issues.
Battery charging time (5ah) is about 45mins IIRC with the supplied ALG50 charger, the optional ALG80 will charge them faster though.
The two systainers in this kit are very handy and keep things tidy.
I think Fein have nailed it with this machine, and it's restored my faith in them.
I would now happily buy another Supercut or an 18 volt Vecturo, these two are without doubt the best cordless multi tools available bar none.
The current Multimaster is also a vast improvement on the previous model but, the Supercut and Vecturo are where the power is.
We will definitely be buying another cordless multi tool but, I can't decide between another Supercut, or the Vecturo, it's only the lack of batteries stopping me buying the Vecturo.
Anyway, hope this might help anybody thinking about a new cordless Supercut, or the Vecturo as they really are almost the same machine. [thumbs up]
Btw, does anybody know for sure if the latest Vecturo plunge base will fit and work with the latest cordless Supercut?
I have muddled along still using the old ones, replacing the body casing when needed but, recently both of the machines have wires breaking because of the years of vibration in use. I normally open them up and re solder but, the solder makes the wire brittle and snaps even more easily.
So apart from a few cordless Makita multi tools as spares, I was getting frustrated again with the Supercuts. Somebody who works for me, bought the newer (current) model a good while ago, and teased me that I really wanted one, despite me saying never again.
He may of been right? what I really wanted was something of the same or more power, that wouldn't melt
I have, after reading and taking part in the Supercut and Vecturo threads, been looking at both machines more closely again. I was going to buy one of each but, I have very few Festool batteries, a vast amount of Makita batteries and a fair few Fein. I wouldn't consider another Makita multi tool as they are not in the league of Vecturo or Supercut. So I got a deal on the Fein anniversary set in two systainers.
To me, this seemed better value for what are almost identical machines.
After using the new machine, quite extensively recently, I have come to the conclusion that it is a vast improvement on the previous model. The anti vibe works well, there is still vibration, which I think would be difficult to eliminate completely with such a tool but, it's nothing like it's predecessor. This is what I wanted the predecessor to be, powerful but, comfortable to use.
The blade change is so simple, the blades snap in and are held very firmly and safely in place by the new mechanism. The blades can be snapped in at more or less any angle, and releasing the blade is also very easy, by pulling the lock lever back.
This machine and the Vecturo, can use the whole range of Starlock blades but, it can only use Starlock blades, non of the old type blades can be used. The blade patent is still tied to Fein and Bosch, which is a small niggle as it keeps the cost high but, not a real issue, as I'll buy more in bulk to keep the tax man happy.
I noticed the lock lever is now plastic instead of the alloy the previous machine had, in honesty this was one of the things that put me off the latest Vecturo. I was worried over nothing though, as the new blade locking mechanism, means the leaver doesn't need to be made super strong. The old machine required a fair bit of pull to release the lever and mechanism, so the alloy lever made sense. The new machine requires very little effort or pull to release the blade, so the plastic is more than strong enough. So don't worry if you're a long time user, and notice the plastic lever, it's fine on both the Supercut and Vecturo.
Battery life seems on par, or possibly better than the previous model, and using the tool for prolonged periods isn't a problem, both in battery life or overheating issues.
Battery charging time (5ah) is about 45mins IIRC with the supplied ALG50 charger, the optional ALG80 will charge them faster though.
The two systainers in this kit are very handy and keep things tidy.
I think Fein have nailed it with this machine, and it's restored my faith in them.
I would now happily buy another Supercut or an 18 volt Vecturo, these two are without doubt the best cordless multi tools available bar none.
The current Multimaster is also a vast improvement on the previous model but, the Supercut and Vecturo are where the power is.
We will definitely be buying another cordless multi tool but, I can't decide between another Supercut, or the Vecturo, it's only the lack of batteries stopping me buying the Vecturo.
Anyway, hope this might help anybody thinking about a new cordless Supercut, or the Vecturo as they really are almost the same machine. [thumbs up]
Btw, does anybody know for sure if the latest Vecturo plunge base will fit and work with the latest cordless Supercut?
