Festool Cordless Table Saw CSC SYS 50 - New YouTube Video

[peter halle]

Ran across this video today.  Most in depth video on this saw I've noticed.  Also mentions that 8 AH batteries are in the works.  [member=15]Christian Oltzscher[/member] did mention in another video interview that he was very excited about the upcoming new offerings. 

Festool Live (UK) CSC-60 Video

Peter

 

[timwors]

It certainly looks very impressive. Festool are also offering hands-on demos in the UK at various dealers over the next few weeks (I am going to one at Axminster tools). I expect it will cover the same ground as the video but would be good to see it for real!

Pre-order price for the full “set” version including batteries/underframe in the UK is £2,100 inc VAT from Elsons and they are currently throwing in a T18 basic for free.

 

[kitfit1]

When i first knew about this last year, i found it very interesting and at the same time verry puzzling.
I'm a full time kitchen fitter in the UK and use a Bosch table saw on all my kitchen fits. A lot of UK based builders use the same saw as well, the reason ? It has a 250mm blade, will cut up to 600mm widths and in my case will easily rip 40mm worktops. All at a cost of under £500. The cost of the CSC SYS 50 at launch in the UK will be £1500 for the bare bones saw (no batteries or charger or the stand). As Festool are marketing this as portable "worksite" saw, my question would be, what possible tradesman working on a worksite would even consider this a viable purchase ? Especially when there are bigger more powerful and cheaper options available.

 

[kitfit1]

It certainly looks very impressive. Festool are also offering hands-on demos in the UK at various dealers over the next few weeks (I am going to one at Axminster tools). I expect it will cover the same ground as the video but would be good to see it for real!

Pre-order price for the full “set” version including batteries/underframe in the UK is £2,100 inc VAT from Elsons and they are currently throwing in a T18 basic for free.

For the benefit of our American cousins, would you pay $2611 for a worksite tablesaw with a 168mm blade ?

 

[six-point socket II]

Worksite doesn't equal worksite.

Will this show up on "worksites" where a 6k kitchen including appliances is installed? Probably not.

Will this show up on "worksites" where a 40k custom build kitchen without appliances is installed? Probably yes.

Same goes for other trades. We have a company a few cities over that sells hardwood flooring. They spent an amount, that to some might seem ridiculous, on the upkeep of their store located in an old-school manor like house where you can experience the hardwood floors in life-like settings up to and including a conservatory - all including high-end furniture, some of that also being sold. To them, a saw like this, is peanuts if it makes life for their installers easier and if they were to request it in order to satisfy the most demanding customer.

So yeah, I can see this on "worksites".

Obviously, more power to those who can do it without a saw like this.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[MaineShop]

It certainly looks very impressive. Festool are also offering hands-on demos in the UK at various dealers over the next few weeks (I am going to one at Axminster tools). I expect it will cover the same ground as the video but would be good to see it for real!

Pre-order price for the full “set” version including batteries/underframe in the UK is £2,100 inc VAT from Elsons and they are currently throwing in a T18 basic for free.

For the benefit of our American cousins, would you pay $2611 for a worksite tablesaw with a 168mm blade ?

As a full time cabinet maker and American, I can say this is something I will purchase if it comes over here. Don't really care about the price. I have switched most of my install trailer to festool mostly due to other tools. I don't use a table saw very much on site, mostly for spacer strips or toe kick. But currently haul a cordless dewalt table saw in the site trailer for just that use. It is a good tool but it is the only thing I am dragging around dewalt batteries for. It is also a little trickier to store in the trailer which has a lot of built in systainer storage. This would be a much better fit. Of course we may wait years to see it over here or even never so we will wait and see.

Festool likes to drag it feet on bringing stuff to the states, have never understood that as it is a big market.

I can understand the concern of cost but for us we have to spend money on tools every year for right offs on taxes anyway. Rather spend some coin on this then give it to uncle sam. I can only use so many trailers and trucks.

 

[reijos]

For the benefit of our American cousins, would you pay $2611 for a worksite tablesaw with a 168mm blade ?

Appreciate the American'izing of the cost but what is this mm thing you speak of?

 

[PaulMarcel]

Appreciate the American'izing of the cost but what is this mm thing you speak of?

1/48,800th of an NFL football field

 

[guybo]

the agony of de feet

 

[Michael Kellough]

Appreciate the American'izing of the cost but what is this mm thing you speak of?

1/48,800th of an NFL football field

Did the NFL field shrink while I wasn’t looking?

If you are thinking of how many mm in 100 yards you’re off by nearly 2X.  [wink]

 

[PaulMarcel]

Appreciate the American'izing of the cost but what is this mm thing you speak of?

1/48,800th of an NFL football field

Did the NFL field shrink while I wasn’t looking?

If you are thinking of how many mm in 100 yards you’re off by nearly 2X.  [wink]

Welp, that's entirely possible! I just re-did my Google search. It gives one of those compact answers. Clicking through, the number of meters given was for the width

So width of an NFL football field! Look, I prefer hockey anyway....

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I just thought it was funny that he Americanized the dollar part, yet left the blade diameter in millimeters?
Just under 6 5/8" BTW  [big grin]

 

[Svar]

Worksite doesn't equal worksite.
Will this show up on "worksites" where a 6k kitchen including appliances is installed? Probably not.
Will this show up on "worksites" where a 40k custom build kitchen without appliances is installed? Probably yes.

A 40k custom build kitchen is not a scaled down model of a 6k kitchen. Probably the other way around. It's not just the price of the tool, it's that you still need to be able to cut wide and rip deep.

 

[six-point socket II]

I think what I wanted to convey is perfectly clear.

Kind regards,
Oliver

 

[squall_line]

Nowadays in the ever-volatile world market, it's not really beneficial to directly convert a price of a tool, vehicle, or other purchase using exchange rates, especially if VAT is included in the conversion price.

To wit, the TSC 55 Body Only is 490 GBP or 408 GBP exc VAT.  Directly converted, that's around $604 or $503 USD.  The FUSA price for the TSC 55 Basic is $549 USD.

The exc VAT is only 1811 GBP, which drops the USD to $2233 USD, so I would imagine the US price would be somewhere between $2200 and $2600, maybe in the $2449 USD range.  That's for the 'Plus' version, which includes the batteries and charger but not the underframe.  The 'Basic-Set' version is 1833/2200 GBP Exc/Inc VAT, which includes the underframe but no batteries or charger.

The full set with underframe and batteries and charger is 2111/2534 GBP E/I, which would mean a USD price between $2600 and $3125, likely around $2849 USD.

As with most things, if and when this comes to the US, we likely won't have the same number of variants as Europe, and certainly not any "Free T 18 with purchase" deals.

 

[tsmi243]

For the benefit of our American cousins, would you pay $2611 for a worksite tablesaw with a 168mm blade ?

Appreciate the American'izing of the cost but what is this mm thing you speak of?

About 6psi, give or take

 

[jimbo51]

I want one. I will not buy one since I cannot justify the price based on simple hobby use. I will wait until one arrives at my local Woodcraft and then go look at it longingly.

For the US, will the height be set in fractional inches or decimal or maybe a choice?

 

[Bencan]

When i first knew about this last year, i found it very interesting and at the same time verry puzzling.
I'm a full time kitchen fitter in the UK and use a Bosch table saw on all my kitchen fits. A lot of UK based builders use the same saw as well, the reason ? It has a 250mm blade, will cut up to 600mm widths and in my case will easily rip 40mm worktops. All at a cost of under £500. The cost of the CSC SYS 50 at launch in the UK will be £1500 for the bare bones saw (no batteries or charger or the stand). As Festool are marketing this as portable "worksite" saw, my question would be, what possible tradesman working on a worksite would even consider this a viable purchase ? Especially when there are bigger more powerful and cheaper options available.

I’m definitely not always looking for a tool that is bigger and more powerful. Often it’s about getting a more compact and lighter tool that will do a job. That being said, I have been consistently disappointed in battery powered “stationary” tools. My m18 table saw just doesn’t get the job done.

Side note the fact that this has a 50mm blade and not a 55mm blade is an absolute disgrace.

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[sancho57]

I think what I wanted to convey is perfectly clear.

Kind regards,
Oliver

u da man bro

 

[sancho57]

Im thinking they will test the market here simular to what they did with the STM 1800.

I also think that when people buy it and report how useful it is, there will be those nay sayers like ones with the  STM. Same nay sayers that when the limited time promotion is over will be sniveling about wanting to get one.

I already have the CMS TS 75 set up with the bells and whistles CS 50 fence, extension wing, sliding attachment , Jig saw module and the router table module, and own both the CMS MFT version and also the CMS  stand alone GE version.

I use both CMS's.

So I prolly wont be getting one as I am mainly in the shop.

But for site work I would think hard about it, Since I live on a acre and 1/4 doing some outdoor projects it might tempt me.

But if I was needing a new saw id get the CSC.

Cost is relative really,

If ya have a small shop not much room it would be perfect,

If your like me and dont use a table saw much other then for repeat cutting of thin strips 8" or less,

Yea it would be perfect.

Thats why credit cards were created, heck ya'll spend $1200 for a Iphone.....