Festool CTL SYS

[johnleve]

It looks like they are the larger systainers which I believe are only available in 1 & 2 or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

 

[jonny round boy]

It looks like they are the larger systainers which I believe are only available in 1 & 2 or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

No, it's the standard 400x300mm footprint, not the larger 'midi' sys.

 

[Frank Pellow]

It looks like they are the larger systainers which I believe are only available in 1 & 2 or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

I agree with you.  They appear to me to be Midi systainers.  Midi systainers come in sys-2 and sys-3 heights.

 

[jonny round boy]

It looks like they are the larger systainers which I believe are only available in 1 & 2 or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

I agree with you.  They appear to me to be Midi systainers.  Midi systainers come in sys-2 and sys-3 heights.

Definitely not. Here's a pic from the document above:

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That's the CTL SYS under an MFT SYS, which is the 'normal' size.

 

[jonny round boy]

Have just heard the price, too. Jon (Roadkilled) has e-mailed N&B for a price, and they've come back with £229 inc. VAT!!! We both thought it would be a lot more!

 

[Frank Pellow]

Have just heard the price, too. Jon (Roadkilled) has e-mailed N&B for a price, and they've come back with £229 inc. VAT!!! We both thought it would be a lot more!

That is a great price! If they get to Canada, I might buy 2.  (and thanks for the clarification on the footprint size).

But, that price takes me back to the thought that it might be an elaborate joke.  [scratch chin]

 

[jonny round boy]

Have just heard the price, too. Jon (Roadkilled) has e-mailed N&B for a price, and they've come back with £229 inc. VAT!!! We both thought it would be a lot more!

That is a great price! If they get to Canada, I might buy 2.  (and thanks for the clarification on the footprint size).

But, that price takes me back to the thought that it might be an elaborate joke.  [scratch chin]

I hope not, I think he's already ordered one!!! [big grin]

 

[BMAC]

Looks awesome! I'd buy one here in Canada. I hope that Festool plans to get the CSA certification to sell it here.

I'd rather a vacuum in this format for portability sake on Job sites. The CTL36AC I have is great but a tad too bulky and heavy to lug around and because of the overall height I'm limited to the stack of Systainers I can bring in to a job site in one go. This would work great with my sys-cart.

With the smaller DC's not available here in Canada this new format would fit the need.

I was out at a large high end home on acreage south of the city yesterday and after completing millwork on the top floor I had to lift and carry the CTL36AC up two flights of stairs that were hardwood and carry the beast to the area I had been working (there were hardwood floors in all rooms) and then clean up when I was done.

It looks like the vacuum specs as far as the suction is the same rating as the other Festool vacuums.

 

[jonny round boy]

It looks like the vacuum specs as far as the suction is the same rating as the other Festool vacuums.

I think the suction ratings differ slightly between European & NA models, probably due to the voltage difference. I know that over there the CT mini/Midi and the CT26/36 all have the same specs. Here in Europe (or at least, in the UK) they all have the same max. vacuum of 24000 Pa, but the airflow is slightly lower on the mini/midi (3700 l/min compared to the 26/36 which is 3900 l/min.

This new CTL SYS is rated at 20000 Pa, with an airflow of 3000 l/min, so slightly lower than either of the above.

PS - I might possibly have just ordered one too... [unsure]

 

[Marshall Monnett]

Not only is it handy because it is small, but it will fit on the sys roll correctly, no longer have to strap the mini to the cart to make it stay.

 

[BMAC]

It looks like the vacuum specs as far as the suction is the same rating as the other Festool vacuums.

I think the suction ratings differ slightly between European & NA models, probably due to the voltage difference. I know that over there the CT mini/Midi and the CT26/36 all have the same specs. Here in Europe (or at least, in the UK) they all have the same max. vacuum of 24000 Pa, but the airflow is slightly lower on the mini/midi (3700 l/min compared to the 26/36 which is 3900 l/min.

This new CTL SYS is rated at 20000 Pa, with an airflow of 3000 l/min, so slightly lower than either of the above.

PS - I might possibly have just ordered one too... [unsure]

Thanks for the clarification on the specs.

Even with slightly less suction or flow I'd still buy one for the sake of size, portability and function. The CTL36AC takes up a TON of real estate in my full sized pick up truck back seat area with the seats folded up. With this new DC format I'd be able to carry more of my systainers in the vehicle.

Right now I have to try to anticipate which tools/systainers I will need for the tasks that day and sometimes I'm missing a specific tool for an unanticipated task.

 

[Greg M]

How long until it makes it's way to the States?  Hopefully they're already working on it. 

I see it has a tool outlet and an auto/manual switch but does it have a variable speed control?

 

[semenza]

    3.5 L , I guess our math and guesstimating was off  [sad]

    But, with the modular design of systainers, maybe capacity expanding add on units?  That would be cool!  [cool]

Seth

I don't think they could do it with add-on units, but they could simply do a model with a larger lower systainer height.

Speaking of which, I think they've missed a trick here:

It looks from the picture like a sys1+sys2 combo. That gives it an overall height that is incompatible with any other combination. They could instead have used a sys2+sys2 combination (giving more room in the hose storage area) or a sys1+sys3 combination (giving more capacity & room for additional tools). Either of those would then equal the height of a sys4.

Did no one at Festool think of this? ???

    Probably just trying to make it as compact as possible. But that upper hose unit could go on any size, and if successful there may be more sizes coming.

Seth

 

[Doug S]

Was at a tool show last week and one of the festool reps said they had something very exciting coming out in April but would not tell me what, guess this is it!

Doug

 

[Thistleman]

Bearing in mind Festool's current concentration on cordless tools how long before a battery powered (18/36v) variant with a brushless motor?

 

[johnleve]

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It looks like they are the larger systainers which I believe are only available in 1 & 2 or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

I agree with you.  They appear to me to be Midi systainers.  Midi systainers come in sys-2 and sys-3 heights.

Definitely not. Here's a pic from the document above:

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That's the CTL SYS under an MFT SYS, which is the 'normal' size.

Are you sure about that, looking at this picture I see him carrying a normal size and then the vacuum slung over his shoulder looks bigger?  Perhaps they are making a larger MFT SYS?

 

[johnleve]

So I have no idea how to use pictures, the picture I wanted to us is there but replaced the one that Johnny had uploaded, sorry did not mean to misquote his post.

 

[jonny round boy]

Are you sure about that,

Yes. Quite certain. The midi has an extra panel in to the outside of the card-holder. This doesn't.

Look at the top view of the hose garage in the pic posted by Neeleman.

 

[AlexThePalex]

It really has the size of standard systainers.

229 quid sounds like a great price.

I do hope it has variable suction, I don't see a dial for it on the pictures. Or at least not a dial as we are used to.

 

[johnleve]

Well that is even more impressive and I guess my eyes were playing tricks on me.  Looking at a normal systainer and a midi I can see the greater similarity to the regular.  How they managed to get a decent vacuum into that footprint is beyond me.