Festool CXS Brushless
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Brice Burrell
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epicxt said:
Yes, all Festool batteries from the last 6-7 years work with the syslite with the exception of the CXS batteries and some really old style Festool batteries.
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epicxt said:
NiCad batteries work in the Syslite. if anyone out there is wondering.
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To buy or not to buy, all this dicussing to and fro about the CXS is slowly eroding all my perspective, I just want it to stop, stop to just STOP ! , I get the CXS okay okay OKAY.....?
oh ah hmmm,, whelle excuse me,,, but I erhh ah I have to admit I have another hidden motive that is eating me on up from th inside out on this subject CXS versus whoever else, yup makes the dicussion a little jarring on my nerves, i admit I feel a sense of growing unease, well it's kind of like this you know , I better own up it and get to the point, it just seems plain wrong to have all those centrotec bits I've been harping on about and only have ONE drill to use them in.. Yes it is just pathetic, I think I'll go get me a CXS at the first operatunity..
oh ah hmmm,, whelle excuse me,,, but I erhh ah I have to admit I have another hidden motive that is eating me on up from th inside out on this subject CXS versus whoever else, yup makes the dicussion a little jarring on my nerves, i admit I feel a sense of growing unease, well it's kind of like this you know , I better own up it and get to the point, it just seems plain wrong to have all those centrotec bits I've been harping on about and only have ONE drill to use them in.. Yes it is just pathetic, I think I'll go get me a CXS at the first operatunity..
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GOT8SPD said:
Yup I've spent too much time on forums so my brain overheated..
But to sum up, I think the Festool drills are superior to most drills out there because of the egronomics, and the Centrotec system. So during this whole long thread the Centrotec aspect is really never mentioned, the egronomics aren't either, notice for example the small 10v bosch drills don't have light, they are stubby as opposed to the CXS that is more sleek and narrow, the aright angle chuck and the centrotec chuck allow it to get into smaller spaces, the smaller jacobs chuck is brilliant for using smaller bits..
So I'd say the biggest attraction to the other non festool offerings in the 10v-12v range are basic they are cheaper, or that there are more choices of tool types like the recipro saw etc.
For me the Centrotec and the egronomics are what push to the Festool Drills, and the CXS is the ONE to get according to most users here.. The one gripe seems to be the low capacity of the batteries, but having two or three as well as the relatively fast charging time solves that problem. For heavier more demanding drilling and screwing jobs I have the PDC 18..
The combination of CXS and PDC is very hard to beat!
I do have the installer's kit too which is expensive and many items in it get unused - but the items I do use ooze quality except the long bits which seem to be made of plastic and have to be used with caution - I only use if absolutely have to!
I do have the installer's kit too which is expensive and many items in it get unused - but the items I do use ooze quality except the long bits which seem to be made of plastic and have to be used with caution - I only use if absolutely have to!
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festivus said:
I didn't get the installer's kit, I opted for getting most of what was in the installer's kit individual for quite reasonable prices at ACH autocolor, which left money for the centrotec Zobo bits, The sets I bought with DB in their name come in containers that fit in the attic lid of the PDC's systainer which is a nice touch.. I think though that I'll end up getting some of the other things from the installer's kit like the 5-15 countersink, and the countersink with depth stop 3.5 mm.
I agree that the PDC combined with the CXS is going to be a killer setup!
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I love my cxs and find i am using it more and more every week.
At first i wasn't that impressed with the battery life as they were lasting about 3/4 of a day before needing to be charged. Now however it could be 2 days before charges.
I push mine to it's limit and beyond. Yesterday it was used to fix ply to stud was with 2" 10 screws without pilot holes.
Today i installed an external door frame with 5" 12 screws. Not once did it complain or struggle. [big grin]
I will be glad when the day comes when i have the DRC to replace my big heavy 18v makita. When ever i pick it up, i always think whether the cxs can do the job instead. 9 times out of 10 it can. Now the makita only gets used for drilling out locks. [wink]
At first i wasn't that impressed with the battery life as they were lasting about 3/4 of a day before needing to be charged. Now however it could be 2 days before charges.
I push mine to it's limit and beyond. Yesterday it was used to fix ply to stud was with 2" 10 screws without pilot holes.
Today i installed an external door frame with 5" 12 screws. Not once did it complain or struggle. [big grin]
I will be glad when the day comes when i have the DRC to replace my big heavy 18v makita. When ever i pick it up, i always think whether the cxs can do the job instead. 9 times out of 10 it can. Now the makita only gets used for drilling out locks. [wink]
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Ive had one since launch, love the drill couldnt be without it! Used mainly for kitchens and light carpentry.
However it has gone thru 2 motors in its lifetime. I never drive anything bigger than 50mm screws with this drill.
Generally i use about 1.5 batts during a full day.
If they release a new version i would buy it in a heartbeat!
My dad has the small bosch drills and my bros has the small dewalt drills. The bosch and dewalt smoke the cxs with the bosch being the most powerful.
However it has gone thru 2 motors in its lifetime. I never drive anything bigger than 50mm screws with this drill.
Generally i use about 1.5 batts during a full day.
If they release a new version i would buy it in a heartbeat!
My dad has the small bosch drills and my bros has the small dewalt drills. The bosch and dewalt smoke the cxs with the bosch being the most powerful.
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Wow. Hope you haven’t been waiting for six years to buy a CXS.
I second everything said about the ergonomics. I have a Makita drill/impact set in LXT brushless. Much more powerful than the CXS, but I still reach for the CXS first. Unfortunately so does my wife.
Some things are just perfect, even though the technology is dated.
I still prefer my Sig P226 to the P320.
I second everything said about the ergonomics. I have a Makita drill/impact set in LXT brushless. Much more powerful than the CXS, but I still reach for the CXS first. Unfortunately so does my wife.
Some things are just perfect, even though the technology is dated.
I still prefer my Sig P226 to the P320.
No, not really, but I am trying to make up my mind in which system i should invest now.
Until now I am still living the ‚cord life‘, I tried ‚cord cutting‘ a few years ago with Bosch Professional 12V system, but was never to happy with it (ergonomics because of the thick handle due to the sloted battery into the grip), parallel I still using Makita drilling hammer, with cable.
But I would like to avoid a mixture of different brands and/ or voltage.
Right now I am between Festool CXS (12V) plus maybe Festool 18V (replacing my Makita with the BHC) or Milwaukee 12V series or Makita 12V....
Until now I am still living the ‚cord life‘, I tried ‚cord cutting‘ a few years ago with Bosch Professional 12V system, but was never to happy with it (ergonomics because of the thick handle due to the sloted battery into the grip), parallel I still using Makita drilling hammer, with cable.
But I would like to avoid a mixture of different brands and/ or voltage.
Right now I am between Festool CXS (12V) plus maybe Festool 18V (replacing my Makita with the BHC) or Milwaukee 12V series or Makita 12V....
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Just a head up regarding grip: If you didn’t like the Bosch 12V you wouldn’t like Milwaukee 12V either. It’s the same battery-in-grip design. In which Makita also had on their previous 10.8V system.
Makita now has slide style batteries aka most 18V platforms, Festool too.
Me neither liked the grip of Bosch 12V system. I sold all my Bosch and bought further into Makita with the CXT 12V platform which has the same grip as its 18V system, I’m very happy with this, and the grip on Festool’s battery machines as well. I did recently buy a CXS, and it has fantastic ergonomics if you like the rear grip style over the t-handle. The TXS and CXS are the only tools that uses the 12V batteries from Festool.
Makita now has slide style batteries aka most 18V platforms, Festool too.
Me neither liked the grip of Bosch 12V system. I sold all my Bosch and bought further into Makita with the CXT 12V platform which has the same grip as its 18V system, I’m very happy with this, and the grip on Festool’s battery machines as well. I did recently buy a CXS, and it has fantastic ergonomics if you like the rear grip style over the t-handle. The TXS and CXS are the only tools that uses the 12V batteries from Festool.
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Agreed with that. I love my m12 but every time I hold another brand it remember how small handles can be without the battery in it.
There is a great deal on a CXS in classifieds right now. $250 in comparison the Milwaukee kit is $230.
There is a great deal on a CXS in classifieds right now. $250 in comparison the Milwaukee kit is $230.
