Festool Hose (possibly dumb question)

[afish]

So I dont own a festool hose other than the Planex hose that came with my 36AC so Im unsure of something.  On the festool sanders they all appear to have some type of twist locking pattern on the OD of the tools dust port.  However,  from looking at the photos (which dont really show the ID of the hose end) it doesnt really look like it has a similar locking pattern on the ID to match the pattern on the tool but does have one on the OD of the hose end...The ID of the hose looks like it just has some ribs similar to my cen-tec hose I use.  These tend to get chewed up a bit over time with the sharper edges on the sanders port.  So can someone clarify what the festool hose end is like on the ID since its hard to find a clear photo.  Am I looking at the wrong connector/hose and is there a particular end they offer to match the sanders port?  Im thinking of running some additional 2" pvc overhead to my bench area and having a shorter dedicated hose from overhead primarily for just for using with my sanders. 

 

[Crazyraceguy]

It does have the reverse of that pattern you are seeing. It goes over the port on the tool and does a twist lock, similar to the plug-it cable.
Of course not all tools have/use this connection. The odd-ball ones like OF1010 and RAS115 are obvious because of the oval, but there are others. The MFK700 horizontal shroud dust ports are just a smooth hole that the hose pushes into, no ribs at all. As I'm sure you know, sometimes the hose goes in and sometimes it stretches around the connection point.
Different generations of tools have changed/updated too.  My original DF500 just had the ribs, to match the ribbed hoses of the time. The new one however, has the locking type that you are describing.
That is part of the buzz over the new version of the OF1010

 

[afish]

It does have the reverse of that pattern you are seeing. It goes over the port on the tool and does a twist lock, similar to the plug-it cable.
Of course not all tools have/use this connection. The odd-ball ones like OF1010 and RAS115 are obvious because of the oval, but there are others. The MFK700 horizontal shroud dust ports are just a smooth hole that the hose pushes into, no ribs at all. As I'm sure you know, sometimes the hose goes in and sometimes it stretches around the connection point.
Different generations of tools have changed/updated too.  My original DF500 just had the ribs, to match the ribbed hoses of the time. The new one however, has the locking type that you are describing.
That is part of the buzz over the new version of the OF1010

Thanks for that CRG.  Thats good news about the hose port.  Just to be clear Im looking at the festool part # 202346 I only need 5-6 feet of hose for the sander station and cant do a boom arm.  I think just the connector is my best option as I probably still have enough hose if not Ill probably get # 452879 since Im going to cut it anyways.  Next project is running some more 2" PVC and I am going to make some magnetic connectors and covers so I can quickly attach/detach hoses in different spots as needed. Most of my stuff is either the cleantec type like on the sanders or the ribbed type, MFK and DDF40 so the cen-tec end will stay for those it works good but after about a year the sanders chew them up.  I might try and find a way to 3d print an adaptor to use the cleantec end on the cen-tec QA hose end as I have grown to really like it.  However having dedicated hose will probably nullify that thought.   

 

[guybo]

hi, this makes connecting tools easy ,however it might make you hose poor.

 

[afish]

Not for me but it was creative.  Not sure which was more interesting the systainer blast gate system or the fact that they call a drill press a filla drill.  [huh]

 

[guybo]

It's all pillar and no filla

 

[tsmi243]

The twist-lock doesn't do a whole lot.  If you've ever used the Bosch-style hose end, with the plain round taper, then it's basically the same experience.  It's still mostly a friction fit, so even if you don't twist it in position, the hose stays on just fine.

If you have any of the oval-port tools, then I do highly recommend the ToolCurve adapters.  They fit the outside of the hose, and the twist-lock DOES work well on them. 

 

[afish]

I have seen the tool curve stuff before but hate using any type of "extra" adaptor do to the additional length and bulk it adds.  Partly why I liked the cen-tec hose so much.  Since you could use different adaptors without adding any extra bulk to the end of the hose.  Now if tool curve made a adaptor to go from the cen-tec QA or even screw directly to the hose to a twist lock cleantec sander port I would buy that for sure. 

 

[Ebuwan]

The twist-lock doesn't do a whole lot.  If you've ever used the Bosch-style hose end, with the plain round taper, then it's basically the same experience.  It's still mostly a friction fit, so even if you don't twist it in position, the hose stays on just fine.

If you have any of the oval-port tools, then I do highly recommend the ToolCurve adapters.  They fit the outside of the hose, and the twist-lock DOES work well on them.

Second the Bosch hose end; i get whats going on with the festool twist lock, but dang, on some tools, it's SO friggin tight. Tight to the point i feel like i'm gonna break the connector.

The Bosch end is way easier to attach, and i've never had an issue with it coming loose or falling off. Maybe if you were on a ladder and dropped the tool, and it tugged on the vac hose, it would be a problem.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Agreed on the too tight. I never push mine on far enough to twist the lock. The friction fit is plenty good enough. I would buy the older ribbed hose ends if they were still available, but as far as I know they are all gone and no-longer being produced.

 

[semenza]

hi, this makes connecting tools easy ,however it might make you hose poor.

Wish he'd show the inside, say if he built it, or where he bought it?

Seth

 

[afish]

Agreed on the too tight. I never push mine on far enough to twist the lock. The friction fit is plenty good enough. I would buy the older ribbed hose ends if they were still available, but as far as I know they are all gone and no-longer being produced.

Well I already ordered one so well see I guess.  I dont have anything with the oval port so thats a non issue.  Ill check out the festool hose end but If I dont like it I may reach out to my 3d printer guy and see if he can make me one.  Picturing something small and compact that screws directly on the hose and has the bayonet twist lock on the ID.  I have found both halves of what I need on thingiverse but everything is made to adapt one or the other to something odd but nothing all in one part. 

 

[afish]

Well my festool hose(202346) end arrived today and so far I like the fit on the cleantec sander port.  Its snug but not to the point I fear of braking anything plus it will probably loosen up a bit.  On the negative side it will not thread onto the cen-tec hose I have.  The cen-tec hose is slightly to big.  Also I didnt like the way the festool end fit the DDF40 The cent-tec end is much better on the Mafell.  However,  I was able to pop the rubber off the centec end and retain the hard plastic piece that allows the ends to be interchangeable. It just so happens if I take about .75 of the end it fits inside the festool end perfectly.  I siliconed the two parts together and waiting for them to dry.  Hopefully, this works out to be a happy accident.  If it works well it will actually be better since I use my ddf40 a lot and wont have to have 2 different hoses.   

 

[notenoughcash]

ID, i hate, i feel like i am going to snap the port on my carvex, but the OD, such as for use on routers and ts, that is brilliant