Festool Live is DEAD.

[CloudFlare]

That was JUICY

I told @Cheese in another post that was the wild west this post has most of the elements of first world problem on a third rate fourm. It's a good read all 5 pages. https://festoolownersgroup.com/threads/goodbye-and-good-luck.4972/

 

[Stevenski]

Well, that was a ridiculous read.

Glad to say that I don't perceive this forum to have the tenor of that era - and I'm very pleased to say that. I've found this forum to be supportive, engaging and populated with knowledgeable people willing to share their experience and expertise.

My thoughts exactly. Unfortunately I can't "un-read" it but it was a woeful example of what can be the down side of online forums.

Anyway, FOG is still here, I am very grateful for everything I have learned here and I feel for Sedge at a purely personal level for what must have been (and probably still is) a very painful moment. Now I'm off to make something

 

[Cheese]

I'm new to this podcast thing so thanks for the "Three Splinters" introduction and excuse my ignorance, but that was a real podcast, is the dreary pace normal? Hmmmm, thanks for the education but if that's what people willingly listen to, then how totally bored must the listeners be? Really? there's nothing better to waste your time on than that? My wife is a big golfer and I always said golf was like watching paint dry...well the podcast thing is like listening to water evaporate. These folks need to get some blood once again coursing through their veins and become alive again. I feel bad for Sedge but after a 30 second exposure that's about all I could take before it put me to sleep. Sheesh...

 

[MacBoy]

It is interesting that humans want a glimpse into the lives of others — dreary or not.

YouTube podcast viewing is on a dramatic uptick, in contrast to the audio-only listening.

While walking the dog for an hour twice a day, I listen for Sedge’s tips.

I mostly listen to sports podcasts. And also to my music playlists.

However, The Three Splinters podcast is option #3. That’s why I am 6-months behind their current release.

I am even farther behind on Fine Woodworking’s Shop Talk Live.

 

[onocoffee]

I'm new to this podcast thing so thanks for the "Three Splinters" introduction and excuse my ignorance, but that was a real podcast, is the dreary pace normal? Hmmmm, thanks for the education but if that's what people willingly listen to, then how totally bored must the listeners be? Really? there's nothing better to waste your time on than that? My wife is a big golfer and I always said golf was like watching paint dry...well the podcast thing is like listening to water evaporate. These folks need to get some blood once again coursing through their veins and become alive again. I feel bad for Sedge but after a 30 second exposure that's about all I could take before it put me to sleep. Sheesh...

For woodworking podcasts, I overall prefer the Fine Woodworking Shop Talk Live podcast. I find the discussion on that podcast more appealing to the kind of woodworking I'm interested in making. Wood Talk is also pretty good - though the one host comes across in not the best of light a lot of the times. They recently were bitching about how the Fine Woodworking podcast was the "official" podcast of the Woodworking in America event and that they (wood talk) are the biggest woodworking podcast in the world - ugh, I just don't care about that ego stuff. Then sometimes, I'll listen to the Lumber Industry Update podcast - that's pretty interesting since the host is from my area. Outside of that, I'll just be driving around listening to YouTube videos by Paul Sellers, Rex Kreuger, Wood by Wright, and the two Peters.

 

[bwehman]

Toolnut had one too

Festoolproducts.com - It's actually where I bought my first Festool from way back in 2015 (DF 500!)

 

[PaulMarcel]

Festoolproducts.com - It's actually where I bought my first Festool from way back in 2015 (DF 500!)

I have a couple Systainers with a 'FestoolProducts.com' sticker across the top. You saved me a trip downstairs to remember the site name!

 

[luvmytoolz]

I told @Cheese in another post that was the wild west this post has most of the elements of first world problem on a third rate fourm. It's a good read all 5 pages. https://festoolownersgroup.com/threads/goodbye-and-good-luck.4972/

A quick read of the link reminded me of the main reasons I stopped frequenting cnczone, just too many axes to grind.

Thank god this forums so good now with a great bunch of helpful people, I hope it stays this way, and judging by the members I think it will!

 

[peter halle]

Well, this thread has certainly gone off course - and yes, I participated in that diversion - but how about we go back to the original topic and if there is a desire to talk about podcasts or other topics start a new thread.

Moderator Note: i.e. NOT a Discussion Item - This forum has overcome issues and grown over the years to a place where many people come to share thoughts, experiences, and knowledge. It came to be because of a lack of knowledge on how to use these tools that came with all sorts of capabilities, but minimalistic instruction manuals and unfamiliarity. We, the Members collectively, have been able to experience a place where there has grown a comfort not seen in so many places out on the internet, and that has been thru a collective effort over the years by primarily the Members. I am sure that the majority of Members here desire it to stay that way and not have their efforts for years go to waste.

Peter Halle - Moderator

 

[semenza]

Speaking as someone with full knowledge both on screen and behind the scenes of all sides of what went on with the forums many years ago I suggest that discussion of that topic be dropped in interest of keeping FOG in good shape. If you want to read that old topic that's fine. But lets not discuss it live. Also note that very few people truly know what went on. I happen to be one of them. What you read in that topic seems very open and informative. However some posters (not all) were actively manipulating things on screen. In other words some of what you are reading is not accurate and in some cases is a well constructed blatant fabrication. Again I am not saying that all posters in that topic were lying. But some were manipulating.

The members, moderators, and Festool staff at that time all did a lot of work to preserve FOG and nurse it back to health. Lets not destroy that by dredging up something that is water under the bridge long ago.

Thanks,

Seth

 

[TomV]

I was lucky to meet Sedge at a festool demo at my hardwood lumber yard and found him to be a really nice person, he seemed interested in me and not “what am I going to buy”. Sedge is the person I would turn to to find out how to use my latest purchase. I wish him the best.

 

[peter halle]

I was lucky to meet Sedge at a festool demo at my hardwood lumber yard and found him to be a really nice person, he seemed interested in me and not “what am I going to buy”. Sedge is the person I would turn to to find out how to use my latest purchase. I wish him the best.

You just described the part of Brian that oh so many did not see, or rather, did not get the opportunity to see. He was a showman at times, but those times were not the majority. In person he was always willing to listen and teach. Yes, part of his job was to sell tools, but he really wanted people to learn about the capabilities of the tools so that they could make the best decision for themselves. When you were talking to Brian, you were the most important person in his world at that time.

Also, while away from the camera, it was best to stay out of the way when he needed to get something done. He would often come in on weekends to get the training room and materials ready for training sessions. If he was on a timeframe he would find a way to very politely, and naturally, urge you to not try to help because he had his plan and routine and wanted everything to be just right.

Brian might not be at Festool anymore, but he is still around, and I'm certain we will have plenty of opportunities to see him and get some of his wisdom.

Peter

P.S. Brian, if you ever read this: I am still sorry for slamming your thumb with the lid of the packing crate at JLCLive!

 

[Chainring]

What Peter described about Sedge is what I pick up from the podcast. On it, he drops the schtick that irritated some people (not me) and gives nuggets of his personality. He comes across as a really upbeat person who genuinely likes people and experiences. Listen how he describes his recent trip to watch a game and the people he met.

Jason, to me, seems like a very matter of fact kind of person, at least from the podcast. Some people don't like that. I tend to appreciate it. Is he a master woodworker? Probably not. Is he limited to builds for his house and helping friends? I guess so. Maybe? It seems his fairly professional presentation style gets him tools and during the #205 podcast he did say he gives lots of them away. Good for him if he can afford the rest.

 

[CloudFlare]

I'm new to this podcast thing so thanks for the "Three Splinters" introduction and excuse my ignorance, but that was a real podcast, is the dreary pace normal? Hmmmm, thanks for the education but if that's what people willingly listen to, then how totally bored must the listeners be? Really? there's nothing better to waste your time on than that? My wife is a big golfer and I always said golf was like watching paint dry...well the podcast thing is like listening to water evaporate. These folks need to get some blood once again coursing through their veins and become alive again. I feel bad for Sedge but after a 30 second exposure that's about all I could take before it put me to sleep. Sheesh...

Its painful indeed, and the best part is the constant push "sign up for our patreon". They asked for people to sign up so they could get money for better cameras and microphones, all while wearing a rolex in a educational video hahaha

 

[CloudFlare]

You just described the part of Brian that oh so many did not see, or rather, did not get the opportunity to see. He was a showman at times, but those times were not the majority. In person he was always willing to listen and teach. Yes, part of his job was to sell tools, but he really wanted people to learn about the capabilities of the tools so that they could make the best decision for themselves. When you were talking to Brian, you were the most important person in his world at that time.

Also, while away from the camera, it was best to stay out of the way when he needed to get something done. He would often come in on weekends to get the training room and materials ready for training sessions. If he was on a timeframe he would find a way to very politely, and naturally, urge you to not try to help because he had his plan and routine and wanted everything to be just right.

Brian might not be at Festool anymore, but he is still around, and I'm certain we will have plenty of opportunities to see him and get some of his wisdom.

Peter

P.S. Brian, if you ever read this: I am still sorry for slamming your thumb with the lid of the packing crate at JLCLive!

The guy is an absolute whizz for knowledge with festool products, down to the most detail like "what rpms the domino spins at". Stuff you didnt really think about. I think removing him from Festool is just another catalyst for the USA HQ, but thats just my personal opinion.

I think he would do great by himself on a podcast, or with someone that has similar knowledge to what he does. Which also explains why he has his own youtube channel to do just that, but visually.

 

[onocoffee]

The guy is an absolute whizz for knowledge with festool products, down to the most detail like "what rpms the domino spins at". Stuff you didnt really think about. I think removing him from Festool is just another catalyst for the USA HQ, but thats just my personal opinion.

I think he would do great by himself on a podcast, or with someone that has similar knowledge to what he does. Which also explains why he has his own youtube channel to do just that, but visually.

consider this, I think Sedge could just launch his own Friday Noon Eastern Time ToolTalk Livestream, basically continuing the work he did on FTL, and have an audience straightaway.

 

[4nthony]

consider this, I think Sedge could just launch his own Friday Noon Eastern Time ToolTalk Livestream, basically continuing the work he did on FTL, and have an audience straightaway.

He already has the audience. Just glancing at both channels, his SedgeTool videos outperform his Festool Live videos by a large margin.

Sorting the FUSA page by popular videos, the most popular video with Sedge looks to be the Shop Talk video with Bourbon Moth at 75K views.

Maybe Festool was holding Sedge back?

 

[onocoffee]

He already has the audience. Just glancing at both channels, his SedgeTool videos outperform his Festool Live videos by a large margin.

Sorting the FUSA page by popular videos, the most popular video with Sedge looks to be the Shop Talk video with Bourbon Moth at 75K views.

Maybe Festool was holding Sedge back?

Holding him back? That may very well be.

I found those Shop Talk videos way after the fact and listened to them all. I enjoyed those and thought it would be great if they had continues. Perhaps another opportunity for Sedge?

 

[peter halle]

Sedge has been working on his internet presence for quite some time. There is a group of influencers that help each other with. advice and I know that he has many friends. In 2016 and 2017 Festool Live was held at their headquarters in Indiana and the influencers - at that time Festool referred to them as the Media - were first coming mainstream. I met more of them in 2018 at their event in Las Vegas but was still very ignorant as to the whole workings of influencers. I found it interesting how they would go off for strategy and planning as well as working on their social media posts. I gave Sedge at that time about 900 Dominos that I had laser engraved with a caricature of him with his arms crossed and his phrase " I hope this helps" to give out to his followers.

So with all this said, I would venture a guess that he has been working to build up exposure planning on taking it bigger once he retired. Now might be sooner than before, but having a gig where he did personal training and then supplemented with Social Media income might be a reasonable gig I imagine.

No matter what he does, I only wish him the best.

Peter

 

[Mini Me]

I was lucky to meet Sedge at a festool demo at my hardwood lumber yard and found him to be a really nice person, he seemed interested in me and not “what am I going to buy”. Sedge is the person I would turn to to find out how to use my latest purchase. I wish him the best.

I am sure you are correct, it was his on screen persona that I did not like and I am sure that a lot of YT personalities are the same. it is common that people talking on a phone do a similar thing.